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Rebalancing the price to represent the value... (lemmy.world)

submitted 11 months ago by [email protected] to c/[email protected]

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Oh, AutoDesk...you have such a way with words. Honestly, I would rather learn to design in OpenSCAD than send AutoDesk a single penny.

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[–] [email protected] 0 points 11 months ago (1 children)

So if you have $1001 in annual revenue, you have to pay $680? So if your business has a running cost of %50, you need to go into the red by $180 to continue running your business?

Someone over in marketing is an idiot.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 11 months ago (1 children)

When I was working as an engineer I used both autocad and revit, autodesk has been a piece of shit company for a long, long time. Their greed knows no limits and unfortunately they have convinced their markets that the cost of working with them is just "the cost of doing business".

I'd love to see the day they crash and burn as a company, but I have a feeling that's just a far fetched dream.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago

You could replace Autodeak with Adobe in your post and it'd be exactly the same. These companies are pieces of shit.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

I greatly miss the ability to simply purchase a program on a disk for a given year and just have access to that tool.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago (2 children)

otoh you have stuff like FreeCAD or OpenSCAD completely free and usable AND you could modify it as you please.

Back then FOSS CAD was barely usable.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago

I’ve used FreeCAD for a few months for small/medium-sized projects and it crashes way too often. It’s pretty much unusable for me. I only use it for CAM these days and do my CAD with OnShape.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

I think the thing people wish for was a little bit of polish in their open source tools.

I love kicad, but it used to have some really rough edges in spite of being simpler compared to something like Altium.

[+] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

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[–] [email protected] 0 points 11 months ago (1 children)

The FOSS stuff can do the job. You just need to tweak these 10 config files because it doesn't come with sensible defaults. Oh, and it's built against a different version of those libraries. Better downgrade two and upgrade that third one. Actually, just fork and modify the source. Much easier. What were we trying to do again?

[–] [email protected] 0 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

Flatpaks exist for FreeCAD.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

What’s flatpak and why in the world would I need to know about it in order to use a cad program? Do you see why people don’t use this stuff?

[–] [email protected] 0 points 11 months ago (1 children)

You mean when people just ask someone else instead of heading to the single best information resource that's ever existed in human history for an immediate answer?

No. I don't see why people do that.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

I making a point that you seem to be missing. If you have to point out some way to get around a problem that any given user will have with a piece of software, then that’s why your software is not being used. This is the continual problem with the Linux community, they think that everyone wants to learn this stuff. Most people just want their software to work. They don’t want to have to do any sort of googling to figure out why it’s crashing or why it’s running slow or why it doesn’t have this or that feature. Every time someone like you tries to point out that someone can just google something you lose another person that may have been willing to use FOSS in the future. Instead, maybe go try to fix their problem because they sure as hell aren’t going to.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (2 children)

First, YOU missed the point in the original context which is different versions of different libraries may be needed to run software. Flatpak solves that particular problem.

Second, I don't owe you or anyone tech support, nor do I care about your satisfaction level with software. Use it or don't.

If you're the kind of helpless person who has to be spoon fed answers, then perhaps Linux or FOSS isn't for you, and other alternatives exist that have professional support staffs.

You act as though inputting the same information ("What is Flatpak?") into a search engine instead of a random comment on a random forum is just A BRIDGE TOO FAR. That's a pathetic attitude, but plenty of people will still step up to help the helpless. I just don't have to spend my free time being one of them - though I often have when it's obvious they've already at least tried to find an answer on their own.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago

If you’re the kind of helpless person who has to be spoon fed answers, then perhaps Linux or FOSS isn’t for you, and other alternatives exist that have professional support staffs.

you're the exact kind of person making FOSS look bad to the majority of people. Since you don't seem to realize, I run the programming.dev instance. I most likely have been working in tech longer than you. This kind of attitude you have towards "people should just learn everything about every piece of software they use" is why people like you shouldn't be near open source software at all. You make it fucking impossible for people like me to get anyone to even try FOSS because all they remember are morons like you saying "just figure it out". I'm not going to teach my mother in law what a fucking flatpak is and there is absofuckinglutely no way that she is going to be able to google it and figure it out. It has nothing to do with learned helplessness. It has to do with the fact that she's a painter, not a tech guru, and gatekeeping FOSS by purposefully making it hard to use is such an idiotic thing I have no clue how you could even defend it. Your actions make big tech companies become more entrenched in people's lives. It is by your hand that people don't want to use things like Firefox.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 11 months ago (2 children)

This is it exactly. The foss works fine and does the job these guys are just whiny bitches who want everything handed to them in perfect condition...but without conditions.

Oh no I have to mod a config file to make it do what I want...why can't the devs just read my mind?!?!??

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago

Oh no I have to mod a config file to make it do what I want…why can’t the devs just read my mind???

nobody has to read anyone's fucking mind, why can't you just make it a fucking settings menu? You're the ones making it HARDER TO EVANGELIZE FOSS. For fuck's sake! You're entirely missing the point!

[–] [email protected] -1 points 11 months ago

And the people who defend Windows like they do - the ones who say it's objectively better - have probably never had to support it professionally on either the help desk side or system admin side. I've done plenty of both, and I absolutely LOATH Windows because of it.

To think that Windows is perfect... My God, what luck they must have had with it. I've run into problems where Microsoft themselves were unable to figure out the cause OR the solution, even when paid to do so. We got a refund on that experience, but I have NEVER run into that with Linux or FOSS. Given enough information regarding a problem, I have ALWAYS had someone who will know the answer.