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[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 days ago

This reads like more AI slop. I miss when Jalopnik had real articles.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 4 days ago (2 children)

My wife has a 2016 Honda Odyssey, and having grown up working on cars because my dad was a mechanic, I was shocked to learn that there is no transmission fluid dip stick. It's considered a closed system and never needs to have the fluid changed, allegedly.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 21 hours ago* (last edited 21 hours ago)

The U660F transmission in my wife's 2015 Highlander doesn't have a dipstick. Luckily that transmission is solid and easy to service anyway, you just need a skinny funnel to fill it.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 days ago

It's a lifetime fluid! For the life of ur transmission! If it'll make it to 100k miles they could care less what happens after that. When your 16 odyssey needs a transmission at 130 are u gonna put 6k into it or go buy a other car?

[–] [email protected] 21 points 4 days ago (1 children)

No, see, they just relocated the dipstick. You can locate it just behind the steering wheel, right above the driver's seat.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 4 days ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 days ago

PEBCAC (car and chair lol)

[–] [email protected] 14 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (1 children)

reinventing the wheel in the DUMBEST way possible at best.

planned obsolescence when the sensors or the head gasket inevitably fail at worst.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 days ago (1 children)

This is a reactionary response, you're just arguing, slow down a bit.

Do you see a value in a check engine light that tells you something is wrong in between full inspections? This is similar, this is telling you there isn't enough oil and damage is occurring before you get a chance to inspect the dipstick.

It's not planned obsolescence unless they also make it unreasonable to service. We already expect to routinely service engines, and they are already very complex and full of sensors, sure this is adding to the complexity but it's relatively pretty minor.

The argument being made, and I agree with it, is that the benefits of an additional long-serving sensor way outweigh the con of having one additional sensor in your car. You get early warning before damage occurs, you get built in fraud protection when you're changing your oil at a shady chain, you eliminate a direct access port for dirt to contaminate the oil.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

all the things you said are good provided the dipstick is still there. cost nonwhitstanding.

which is already a thing in some cars.

a lot of the ones that get rid of the dipstick (its semi-common on transmissions now) end up being disposable.

friend of mine had a ford like this. and it cost more than the car to fix after only 10-15ish years of use. its terrible.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

friend of mine had a ford like this. and it cost more than the car to fix after only 10-15ish years of use. its terrible.

Yeah, that's just how it goes as the engine becomes more complex, leaving a dipstick there is not gonna change that...

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 day ago* (last edited 22 hours ago)

leaving a dipstick there and not recommending against changing your transmission fluid would not have ruined the car in a measly decade.

please don't trust these corporations. unrepairable items are engineered to be unrepairable, and vice versa.

[–] [email protected] 23 points 4 days ago (1 children)

I've had a car with where the oil pressure sensor failed; combine that with an oil leak, and you quickly have a major problem. So, what happens when the sensor telling you the oil level fails? A dipstick is extremely unlikely to ever fail to work correctly, so...?

[–] [email protected] 10 points 4 days ago (3 children)

You would think an engineer would understand this.... I assume this is a decision from management.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 days ago

Engineers are people like everyone else and some people have no qualms fucking over other people for money.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 days ago

The Engineer was also told they would get a bonus if they could make maintenance more common and more expensive under the guise of improved technology.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 4 days ago

"Grok told me this was the right thing. Nom nom, this superglue bathsalt pizza is delicious"

[–] [email protected] 0 points 4 days ago

This reminds me of funny American commercial from when I was a kid

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mj5ms9PJDNY

[–] [email protected] 16 points 4 days ago (3 children)

Oil is essential. However, those manufacturers that claim you have to change synthetic oil three times a year are full of shit.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 days ago

That chronological duration is more of an estimate based on how much the "average" car may be driven and is just to give someone an idea of the frequency.

The standard for cars built for synthetic ("conventional" cars may have a bit more susceptibility to contamination, so they normally have shorter durations) usually usually go for 10-15k miles (~16-24k km). So going 30-45k miles in a year isn't really unheard of. (Some cars are much less, while others like company cars/taxis can be more than double)

[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 days ago

I know it can last longer than that, but I think there is a benefit to doing so even if it doesn't need changed that often. It's the same reason I have my mechanic do my oil changes instead of doing them myself. It's so that they can look at the rest of the car and let me know about problems before they become a much more expensive fix. Kinda like going to a doctor for a yearly checkup and blood work.

I can fix almost anything on a car if I know what the issue is and have the shop manual, but I don't work on cars enough to know all warning signs or quickly diagnose things.

However, I do realize how difficult it can be to find a mechanic that is trustworthy, competent, and reasonably priced. I'm generally not a fan of dealership mechanics or the places that are dedicated to cheap oil changes. Not saying none of them have good mechanics, but it can be hit or miss.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 4 days ago

Depends on how much you drive, and what the recommended interval is. If the interval is 7k miles, and you drive 18k in a year, yeah, you need to change the oil 3x/year.

It seems to me that counting the number of cycles each makes, and basing your intervals off that would make more sense than mileage. If I'm constantly running at high RPM, that should require more frequent oil changes in terms of mileage.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 4 days ago

Just forcing more people towards mechanics. Can’t see levels or if there might be an issue with a lubricant, so if you burn up a transmission, guess you gotta buy a new one.

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