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I hate this town. I hate this fucking town.

I just want to sew. I've been looking for local sewing jobs for fucking ages!!! Everyone in my area is looking for upholstery work. There's a fuckton of boats in my area that people want done. But every single upholstery shop has told me "no". Four local shops. Have a fuckton of work they want done, but they don't want to pay me the amount!!!!

A local shop finally called me back. Guy gave me 4 outdoor cushions to make and said he'd evaluate my work & pay me when it's done.

I worked on 4 cushions, 2 different sizes, complete with piping & zippers on all of them. Took me 3 days. Approximately 6 hours per day of work, a total of 18 hours, and that's the low estimate.

Got it done. Looks awesome.

He gave me 100$. Then he said I could compete with his current seamstress for jobs and he'd choose the cheaper of the two estimates we give.

I want to fucking cry. I have to take this job. Any job. I need the money.

I'M ONLY ASKING FOR LIKE 300$ PER WEEK IN ORDER TO SURVIVE???? Am I crazy????? Is that too much????

At least he gave me the job where I quoted 35$ each for 2 vinyl boat pieces.... that's 70$.. I think I can get it done in day.... wow.... 10$ an hour.... fucking wow......

I hate this. I fucking hate this so fucking much.

God, I want to cry......

EDIT: Start my own business?

During a looming economic crisis + ridiculous foreign tariffs + with real estate currently at an all-time high?

Don't think I can take the risk that right now, as much as I'd like to.

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[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I can't be the only who just does not sympathize with OP? Doing what you'd like to do isn't profitable? You'd need to have a job you don't love?

I mean... that's life for you.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 days ago

Let me be clear: I'm handicapped and sewing is one of the only skills I have that allows me to make money.

I do enjoy sewing, but it is also one of the few jobs I'm actually physically able to do.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 days ago

May I suggest that you open your own business? It seems there's more than enough demand, and you have the skills and the tools. Go you!

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 days ago

Where the hell even are you? Anyway demand minimum wage.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 3 days ago

You don't give him the work until he pays you enough for it. This is why you negotiate up front. Anyone who won't agree to a price ahead of time is trying to screw you over

[–] [email protected] 5 points 3 days ago

That fucking guy's archetype brings about unions. Or he gets dragged out in the middle of the night and beaten to death in front of his family. I don't know what it is about the maritime community, but it sure does attract a disproportionate amount of grifters, scammers, total jerkwads.

[–] [email protected] 35 points 3 days ago (1 children)

I run a cut/sew shop specializing in marine canvas. I'm a one man shop but have worked for tyrants in the industry. Sounds like this guy is another dictator of his empire of dirt. Buy yourself a good walking foot machine and seize the means of production.

In all honesty, a simple box cushion should take about an hour and a half. I charge $100/hour. If I was to sub it out I have a sewer who would do it for $40/hour. I hate cushions with a passion and would tell the customer I was subbing it out but would still charge them $60/hour at least. Experience equals speed equals profit, and education is expensive. I'm sure you'll sew the next ones faster, but that doesn't mean you'll get paid extra to learn.

But fuck that guy. He will always pay the smallest amount possible and look for ways to keep his foot on your neck as you improve. Marine canvas isn't a simple trade to start in, but can be quite profitable if you don't fuck up. I encourage you to keep at it, but don't count on some asshole to help you.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 days ago (1 children)

The fabric was patterned and he said that he expected the pattern to match / line up on each one, and they have to match no matter which cushions were switched out. I had to be meticulous and make sure the back cushion pattern started where the seat pattern ended. Had to do the same with the boxing.

I also used a hot-knife to cut, as I had wanted to make sure fabric wouldn't unravel. That was probably overkill, but I wanted to show I could do clean work and was serious. Too bad I felt I was the only one taking it seriously, in the end.

I live in a town on the water, and we don't have a marine canvas / upholstery shop, which baffled the hell out of me. Now I realize that old, out-of-touch shop owners would not want to fairly pay employees, so that's why we still have none.

I looked into starting my own shop.. but with my country's current leader actively plunging us into an economic crisis.. it's a frustrating no-go, as the risk is far too high. Plus, I looked into buildings where it could be feasible, and I could not afford it even in my wildest dreams.

I appreciate your input. I'm too angry and frustrated to do more rn, but I do very much appreciate your kindness. Thank you.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

Ya, patterns suck. Unfortunately, a great way of learning the trade can be eating some assholes shit for a while. If you can find a shop you can suffer with, it will get your face out there. People will quickly seek you out if you're talented.

It doesn't sound like you're able to start a business, but you will be able to build one. I say, I'm not building boat tops, I'm building relationships lol. It's a piece of cloth, they're going to be back for repairs. Sometimes you eat the bear, but this time the bear ate you. Remember this one and carry on with the next one. It takes a stiff spine to slut yourself as a custom shop. I call myself an upholstitute or an upholstwhore.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 3 days ago (1 children)

I mean, that’s kind of on you for not agreeing on the price beforehand - but still, pretty damn rude of them. I bet they’re charging at least 50 bucks an hour, so I’d love to hear their excuse for paying a tenth of that.

Sounds like you already have the equipment for this kind of work, so why not just start your own business? That’s what I did, and it was one of the better decisions I’ve made in my life.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 3 days ago (2 children)

I suppose I shouldn't have expected a boomer to fairly compensate me. However, it being my first time out in the job market for a while, I had expected things things to work on a standard based on at least the current minimum wage.

I don't think those expectations are unreasonable.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 days ago

It's not unreasonable. I wouldn't work for this person, or I would accept work to do and then come back to them and say "I needed to prioritize better paying work, I can't get this done on time."

Like, do you think this person is treating you honestly in any measure? No. They are breaking the social contract. Don't give them an inch.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Unfortunately if you aren't an actual employee, minimum wage doesn't apply. And if you have to bid against other workers for work, you DEFINITELY are not an employee.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 days ago

Not really how that relationship is determined basically anywhere.

Piecemeal employment contracts exist, they are still employment relationships.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Start your own business if possible.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 3 days ago

There is tons of work and the local market supports that. Find a way to use equipment from somebody else for cheap to start and at the rates that the shops get payed you probably would get byy with finding one out two jobs per month. Take control of your life. You can do it.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 3 days ago

That is deeply fucked. You deserve enough compensation to be comfortable, to have healthcare and all the other necessities & some luxuries, and to be able to plan for your future.

Those upholsterers are being predatory. No one deserves it.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 3 days ago (1 children)

So you're saying you and the other seamstress can open a business together and charge whatever you want?

[–] [email protected] 7 points 3 days ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 18 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Seize the means of production my prole

[–] [email protected] 8 points 3 days ago (2 children)

You usually need money to do that.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Business loans are a thing

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 days ago

During a looming economic crisis + ridiculous foreign tariffs + with real estate currently at an all-time high?

Don't think I can take the risk of trying to start my own business right now, as much as I'd like to.

[–] [email protected] -3 points 3 days ago (2 children)

A shove and a flight of stairs would work just as well

[–] [email protected] 15 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Murder a man and steal massively heavy equipment from a well-known local figure? That's your solution to my problem?

For fuck's sake.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 3 days ago

You are right, you are better off finding some "legal" way of bankrupting them and forcing them to sell you the equipment, using a few lawyers and politicians.

At least that's what they do in the movies when they are not murdering.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 3 days ago

That's a great way to end up working slave labor.

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