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[–] [email protected] -2 points 2 days ago

Can you afford a phone carrier jammer?

[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 days ago

Hi. 3F Copenhagen member here. I believe the scaffolders club are organising something over a similar situation that is, however, less intrusive than yours. Your situation is like a horror story version of what the scaffolders are getting (GPS tracking, logging of their company vehicles. They don't have AI... Yet...).

Do you have a union you can turn to?

[–] [email protected] -3 points 2 days ago

What? Why do you want to do wrong things with your truck?

[–] [email protected] -5 points 2 days ago (3 children)

Holy fuck you all are a bunch of callous assholes. Telling someone to "join a union" or "ask your union" about it are fucking mental. Do you really think OP is working a union gig or are you really that stupid to think you just go out to the union store and ask for one union card? How is this helpful to anyone who is in a non-union job working for a non-union company. I'll bet you all are the same people that tell depressed people to "just be happy." It's just useless, if not ourtright malicious, advice to give someone.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

There are two camps in this thread. On one side you have people saying to move to a workplace with a union. On the other hand you have people advising criminal retaliation, vandalism, sabotage, and fraud. And you have a problem with the unionists.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

I have no problem with unions and I'm extremely pro-union. I'm also practical and not naive enough to think that you can join a union in every job. They don't exist for a lot of jobs at all and you have to be very diligent to be able to form one without losing your job from unjustly being fired.

What I hate is people giving shitty advice so they can feel superior. "Join a union" is great advice if your job/field already has one. "Join a union" when someone has a work dispute with their clearly non-union employer is idiocy and belittling to the person that is asking the question. I made the analogy above, so I'll turn your question on its head, do you think depressed people should just try to be happy? Because it's the same level of advice as, "Join a union" in this instance.

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[–] [email protected] 8 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Well, if it is not helpful advice for OP it is not bad advice.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 days ago

It's really not even advice. It's just self aggrandizement and dumbass people looking for a circle jerk to join. It doesn't address the issue that OP has in the slightest practical way, and is kind of callus to their actual problem.

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[–] [email protected] 123 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (3 children)

Those Solera devices you've got are relatively common automotive IoT fleet trackers. They usually have gps antennas. They talk to the engine and transmission directly over canbus. Then they process that data and report what they see over a cell network. If they see nothing, they report that too with a heartbeat signal and various error codes.

Depending on the model, they sometimes have external cell antennas connected with a mini coaxial cable. Find it and unscrew it all the way, then re-screw it in by only 1 and a half rotations so it'll hang on but barely. Then clip the nearest ziptie so the cable wobbles free. It'll cause the nut on the coax to get a stress fracture in under a year. They will have to replace the gps/cell antenna module and those are like $300 a piece through Samsora. In the meantime you'll get iffy signal responses. Don't let them catch you cutting the zip tie on camera or you WILL lose your job.

Your truck will be in the maintenance shop relatively frequently at the request of whoever reads the reports for repair of that cell module. They won't find anything wrong with it, scratch their butts, then just screw it back down and replace the ziptie.

Unscrew it and clip it again.

[–] [email protected] 81 points 2 days ago (48 children)

don't let them catch you, you WILL lose your job

Hey director of IT for a trucking company here, i just want to reiterate this part!

Don't fucking do this. Any of this advice. You WILL lose your job and we WILL blacklist you from the industry for this shit. Maybe if you drivers could actually mange your fucking log books and follow the safety regulations we wouldn't need to have ELDs and camera and GPS and fucking canbus monitoring and annual inspections and all of the other """invasive nonsense""" the government requires.

I dont want it either. Its all crazy expensive, annoying to manage, and I have to constantly deal with drivers complaining about it.

Sorry. I'm a little upset with this issue because its a constant issue i have at work. But no there is nothing you can do besides just get another job.

I just want to reiterate it again. Do NOT mess with the equipment your company has in your truck. At best you'll just get fired but I've seen my company respond with legal measures in the past.

[–] [email protected] 78 points 2 days ago (3 children)

Maybe if you drivers could actually mange your fucking log books and follow the safety regulations we wouldn't need to have ELDs and camera and GPS and fucking canbus monitoring

Those companies would deploy this shit anyways even if the logs were perfect. Anything to blame the employee can and will be deployed.

[–] [email protected] 34 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

Those companies would deploy this shit anyways even if the logs were perfect.

I want to say that businesses are famous for spending enormous amounts of money to fix a solved problem sarcastically but I've been working too long to believe it.

Still, so much of the problem isn't with the monitoring but the annoying middle-management response of stack-ranking all the drivers. Rather than just playing your hand, big employers are constantly trying to reshuffle and "optimize" staff in order to squeeze out an extra ounce of profit. And the end result is everyone being immiserated in order to give someone with a marginal fluctuation in performance a raise.

Anything to blame the employee can and will be deployed.

Shit rolls downhill.

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[–] [email protected] 74 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Trucking is so funny. There is an adversarial relationship between the drivers and the office, which you can see in this comment.

The industry is trying to solve safety issues caused by the nature of long haul driving and maintenance of profit in logistics by companies that use their services.

Trucking used to be a way a person could provide for their family, remain independent, and feel in control. Now, trucking is an industry where you are trapped in a moving computer designed primarily to reduce the insurance rates of the company that employs them, because their business practices and demands were so dangerous, individuals truckers had to drive more hours, get paid less for those hours, and literally drive themselves, and other motorists around them when they crashed, to death.

Then they blame the truckers as they race to bottom in hiring. Don't even get me started on nafta. Your industry sucks for the employees who are necessary to keep the economy moving.

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[–] [email protected] 14 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Well the whole bit about backing out the nut is to cause it to fail in a manner that looks more like a maintenance problem and not a driver problem. Even when stuff like that only happens on one cab, it's not enough to point at a singular driver.

And yeah all of that advice comes with the rider that "you may be unemployable" afterwards.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 2 days ago* (last edited 13 hours ago) (1 children)

You know there's plenty of control freaks micromanaging everything underneath them even if it pisses off their best people to the point of quitting.

Especially those 1 or 2 rungs higher up the chain who need to make up problems to solve so they can justify their existence.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

you're confabulating

[–] [email protected] 38 points 2 days ago (2 children)

The safe way to fight back is through the trucking unions, which don't seem interested in getting rid of this invasive software.

But if every trucker did this they couldn't blacklist them all.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 2 days ago

Unions aren't interested in pushing back against the invasive software because they know drivers haven't been following the rules.

Basically nobody in the industry wants this. It makes it harder to do our jobs, it's more annoying, and it's crazy expensive. But it's what you gotta do when drivers run 2 or 3 log books.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Yeah, this is a problem of pushing compliance to a level above the operator in an area where the perfection demanded by policy relies on traffic behaving perfectly, and drivers never experiencing delays or problems, to operate. The only way this goes away is a scarcity of drivers.

Someone who believes they know how to drive will suggest automated trucks, but the accident lawsuits will probably bankrupt the first companies.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 days ago (8 children)

It would work if you made lanes for self driving trucks.

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[–] [email protected] 11 points 2 days ago

Quit. Let them know why you quit. You are a truck driver and can get another job within a week.

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