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Feddit post in support of zionism germany-coolqin-shi-huangdi-fireball

Hi.

In the past few days, discontent regarding mod decisions in this community has been brewing, particularly when it comes to comments on Palestine, Israel, and Israeli politics and actions. There are also misunderstandings regarding mod intention and German law. We hope to clear that up with this post.

While the servers of feddit.org are in Austria, most of the mods of this community as well as admins of this server live in Germany. Speaking of, our server admins have also posted a write-up on the same topic.

And with that, let’s go:

In Germany, antisemitism is specifically sanctioned in German criminal law, both for speech and as a motivation for other criminal behavior. In addition, Germany seeks to protect the Jewish state of Israel (the so-called “Reason of State” introduced in 2008) and thus verges toward protecting Zionism as well. Certain criticism of Israel/Israelis is also categorized as “Israel-related antisemitism”.

Since criminal law is involved, enforcement can mean things like police raids and device confiscations. After such police action, it does not really matter if it was appropriate or if cases are dropped or never charged: The damage is done. All told, it’s not that fun.

There is also no point in engaging in discussions about the veracity of statements that could get us into legal trouble. In addition, we believe that you can express most opinions without breaking rules.

Another post about they are totally not Zionazis isntrael

Hello all,

in the last few days there have been some accusations against the moderators of [email protected] as well as against our admin team of being Nazis or Zionists, mainly because of the way of dealing with criticism of Israel.

We explicitly reject these accusations and will not tolerate such accusations. In particular, people who accuse others in this way without any concrete objective reason are not welcome on feddit.org. This is already covered by our rule of respectful interaction.

First of all, we would like to remind you, that the use of feddit.org must be compliant with the rights and regulations of the DACH region. This is explicitly mentioned in our instance rules, and includes Germany (D), Austria (A) and Switzerland (CH). The infrastructure of feddit.org is maintaind by the Fediverse Foundation, a non-profit association in Austria. Our Admin team, which takes care of the instance wide moderation, organization and supporting infrastructure operations, is based in Germany. Since we primarily target the German speaking coutries, we also try to comply with laws and regulations of Switzerland.

Even if we do not have to actively search for violations of the law, it is necessary to intervene after becoming aware of them. This includes, for example when moderators or admins receive messages about posts or comments, but also when such content is discovered by chance when browsing Lemmy.

In this instance, we fully support the moderators of [email protected] to potentially remove too much rather than too little in case of legal uncertainties.

One of the triggers for the current debate is this post, which followed the removal of a comment comparing National Socialism with the current situation in Israel, which can be considered a trivialization of National Socialism. Such statements can, among other things, lead to imprisonment. Among other things, the post claimed that the removal had a Zionist motive, an accusation that should always be supported by appropriate evidence and prior to which it should be ruled out that there are alternative explanations.

We will not be removing every comment that goes even remotely in this direction, but we reserve the right to permanently ban users from feddit.org who make unfounded accusations, such as labeling our instance, admins, moderators, or other users as Nazis or Zionists, without substantial supporting arguments. This is especially the case when this is recurring behavior and not an isolated incident.

This includes content such as this post by @[email protected], who was banned from our instance shortly before that post due to multiple incitements of violence and terrorism. This person also seems to be the admin of the instance quokk.au, or at least to have good relations to the admin, since we received a censure on Fediseer from quokk.au around the same time, in which we are being accused of being Zionists and Nazis, and @[email protected] has suggested to defederate quokk.au from us (archive).

If this censure by quokk.au is not withdrawn in a timely manner, we will defederate quokk.au from our side for these unsubstantiated and untrue accusations. quokk.au is a relatively small instance with only a few local users, which tried to build an alternative news community that is not on one of the “big” instances. Unfortunately, this community also seems to be a poor alternative if this is how their admin typically acts.

Fediverse ML comm post german-mud-wizard

Fediverse world comm post lemmitor

DB0 PTM post pirate-jammin

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[–] [email protected] 51 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

The German right-wing white supremacist instance engaging in censorship for the benefit of genocide loving zionazis???

What a shock, I can't believe Germans of all people would become racist cowards who hide behind state decrees, truly no historical precedent

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[–] [email protected] 29 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (1 children)

If Israel were founded in Germany after ww2, these same pro-Israel types would be trying to enact the second Holocaust

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[–] [email protected] 35 points 3 weeks ago

they know their hosting other instances content as well and would be liable for that? Tempted to scare them into defedding everyone

[–] [email protected] 53 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

Entirely unsurprising and deeply unserious. The price to humanity for the West never de-Nazifying has been immense.

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[–] [email protected] 31 points 3 weeks ago

The fun part is that it could genuinely lead to trouble with the cops. This country is one of the west's most conservative societies, in the sense that the status quo is holy (and very popular among a large % of heavily moralistic and annoying people) and heavily enforced.

[–] [email protected] 24 points 3 weeks ago

Small domino: Augustus failing in his world-historic duty to forcefully drag the Germanic barbarians into civilization.

Large domino: A Lemmy instance banning pro-Palestinian posts and comments.

[–] [email protected] 38 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (4 children)

DB0 PTM post

whta does the M mean? 😄

Saw this on all so might as well comment. They kept insisting it was "because of german law" but ffs, we weren't even asking them to break it. All they had to do was not downplay the genocide and not support the IDF, and they failed at that.

In the original thread which started it all i had feddit users arguing to me bullshit like "Gaza started the war" "Hamas and the IDF are JUST as bad" and the famous "You support palestine? Then, you support hamas???" when i didn't even fucking bring up hamas at all. You can look at my comments too.

I banned lots of users there, and they went to ich_iel, then cried and demonized us for banning them (dbzer0 "downplays"/bans you if you don't support hamas!!!) which, literally what? Of course, all of the other feddit users backed them up, too.

I know tons of germans who are LEGALLY pro palestine, they are using the law as an excuse to support genocide.

This shit is annoying. [Not] sorry for rant.

Edit: Forgot to mention, [email protected] splintered and somebody created [email protected] as a reaction. We'll see how it goes.

[–] [email protected] 30 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

It's unsurprising that Zionists will jump on weak "threats" in order to take a "legalistic" genocidal stance. It's not that it is easy for them to not be Zionists and they failed, they used it as an opportunity to push for Zionism.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 3 weeks ago (15 children)

It's very disappointing to see, especially since the admins are nice. This wasn't about law, it was about morality. The arguments i had in YPTB was making me actively lose my mind, these people are so close minded. Don't get me started on their shit talking about us too lol.

Lots of the users i banned were actively misrepresenting my arguments (to other feddit.org users). They genuinely believe i banned them for "NOT SUPPORTING KHAMAS" while they were throwing accusations, and both-siding genocide.

(translated and edited og german comments with english ones.

This was just ONE argument i had that day, by the way.

I'm sick of that instance's users. can't wait till lemmy 1.0 has better instance blocking. I'm probably being very petty, but it bugs me insanely.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Honestly feddit is probably going start getting defederated by more instances before 1.0 comes out

They are growing a zionist instance that is going to become too dificult to moderate for most admins of other instances

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[–] [email protected] 12 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

The M is for mods, i forgot the comm goes by YPTB

[–] [email protected] 12 points 3 weeks ago

Thanks for the clarification, was confused.

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[–] [email protected] 25 points 3 weeks ago
[–] [email protected] 28 points 3 weeks ago

Useless German bastards.

[–] [email protected] 38 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

One user said

I’ve always said that the best route to take when you’ve been accused of supporting genocide and apartheid is to double down

The reason they gave for removing that comment and banning him was

baseless accusations of zionism

even though his comment didn't mention Zionism

[–] [email protected] 14 points 3 weeks ago

I’ve always said that the best route to take when you’ve been accused of supporting genocide and apartheid is to double down

"And that's why I changed my pfp to King Leopold II"

[–] [email protected] 55 points 3 weeks ago

You're telling me you can set up and maintain a federated Lemmy instance, but you just can't figure out how a VPN and hosting things outside the Fourth Reich works?

Fuck off, fascists. The mask has already slipped—drop the act.

[–] [email protected] 41 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

You know what else is illegal under german law? Communism, hammers and sickles, etc

what a cool and normal place

[–] [email protected] 20 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (2 children)

No it's not? I saw a guy yesterday wearing the five heads of Marxism on a t-shirt lol

What's banned is the old KPD, which is why the new KPD (which exists due to a legal loophole in the reunification treaty) sometimes gets harassed by the cops.

There is a certain crackdown on USSR associated imagery at WW2 memorial events, but beyond that, the cops and courts don't have enough of a reason to go after ML groups on the basis of symbolism and self-proclaimed adherence to a communist worldview.

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[–] [email protected] 36 points 3 weeks ago
[–] [email protected] 60 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (4 children)

I'm not reading all that lol

instead I'll just repost the timeless Michael Brooks response, "it's not a complex issue," where he switches the roles of Israelis and Palestinians

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=62I61kBahNY&t=260s

figure it out, feddit

[–] [email protected] 5 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

I found a YouTube link in your comment. Here are links to the same video on alternative frontends that protect your privacy:

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[–] [email protected] 25 points 3 weeks ago

How does their national anthem go again? Israel, Israel über alles wasn't it?

[–] [email protected] 52 points 3 weeks ago (6 children)

Let's split Germany into quarters this time. Maybe zigzags.

[–] [email protected] 32 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 16 points 3 weeks ago

Beware, somebody will say this is pro genocide and anti German

[–] [email protected] 16 points 3 weeks ago

I keep saying we only need to claim a city bloc in Germany is Prussia and all the dominoes will fall from there.

[–] [email protected] 39 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

We have to split germany into more than just quarters this time

[–] [email protected] 20 points 3 weeks ago

We need to carve Germany out of the crust and shoot it into the sun

[–] [email protected] 21 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

Bohemia and friends looking real cohesive, otherwise a good start

[–] [email protected] 19 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Also gotta get rid of the Teutonic order, nothing Teutonic is good

[–] [email protected] 14 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

Just rename it danzig and split up poland as well

[–] [email protected] 12 points 3 weeks ago

Leave Czechia be, they are smol bean

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