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I am aware of

  • Sea-lioning
  • Gaslighting
  • Gish-Galloping
  • Dogpiling

I want to know I theres any others I'm not aware of

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[–] [email protected] 22 points 3 weeks ago (102 children)

I'll give you a huge one.

Purity tests (when cosplaying as liberals). If a person isn't super-duper liberal on every single issue then you can't support them.

There's tons of this on this very site. People who will tell you they'll stay home and not vote for someone, if they only support 80% of what they seemingly want. People see this, then emulate said behavior.

Somehow, liberals would rather get 0% of what they want instead of 50% because of the missed 30% that the candidate doesn't support.

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[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 weeks ago

Motte and bailey.

  • "The Kingdom of Foo has no inequality!"
  • "Actually it has quite a bit..."
  • "Well it's still moving in the right direction, and that's what really matters."
[–] [email protected] 9 points 3 weeks ago

Strawmanning because they won't or can't understand your argument, mistaking the map for the place usually because of equivocating on vaguely understood or multiple definitions, non-sequetor this is where someone just yaps for awhile based on the crap that falls out of their head based on the words they heard but didn't get the point and is barely tracking

[–] [email protected] 22 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

There is a series "The Alt Right Playbook" that covers a lot of bad faith and manipulative tactics, many of which are used online.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 3 weeks ago (10 children)

I hate the one where you call them a fascist (because they literally are) and then they come around and call you a "blue MAGA".

like bitch, if I was "blue MAGA" I'd be making IEDs and forcing abortions on women and shit. ain't nobody got time for that. I'm building a garden so I can fuckin eat this year.

[–] [email protected] -3 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

No, I think you have the definition of that word wrong blue Maga is just the people on the left that are making money, commenting, andreacting to the shit people do on the right. CNN and MSNBC telling us the latest bullshit Trump has done is a blue Maga type behavior

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[–] [email protected] 6 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

There's another type I see often here with these kinds of assholes. It's intentionally misconstruing or reaching the wrong conclusions about what the other person is saying. It's a form of strawmanning. They'll move the argument just a bit to the side, drop a false zinger that could fit the original narrative if you squint hard enough, and accuse you of saying or doing horrible shit when in reality you're saying something else.

And guess what, the people reading do not give a shit. They'll just dogpile if you try to fight it because Lemmy is wonderful like that and people here are so nice and critical.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 3 weeks ago

Come on, no one's ever overwhelmed you in bad faith online.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 3 weeks ago

Nice try, Elon

[–] [email protected] 8 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Online arguements take ten times the energy to put in than to exit out, any well thought arguement could be shut down just by ignoring it, or making up reasons to avoid confronting it (whataboutism for example)

[–] [email protected] 8 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 6 points 3 weeks ago
[–] [email protected] 11 points 3 weeks ago (3 children)

I see ad hominem very often as well as strawmanning. Specifically on lemmy people will say tankie/auth or irl they'll say woke/liberal and then use those insults to further strawman argumenents. Specifically multiple times I have said "hey I voted Kamala but her policies deeply concern me", and people responded with "Uhh how dare you not vote Kamala and openly declare you hate democracy, freedom, and trans people".

[–] [email protected] 15 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

The other way happens as well. You can say you voted harris because its the lesser of 2 evils, then someone calls you genocider... 🤦‍♂️

Like, people forget how FPTP systems work.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 3 weeks ago

I've been called a harris voting genocider a couple times now. I'm Australian.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Or I can say that I voted Kamala and I still hate that she supported genocide and get called a tankie.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

What you need to keep in mind is that it's not just voting, it's also campaigning. If you're a citizen who has opinions you share with your friends, that's one thing. If you own a large online community that consistently puts out propaganda, that's another thing. That's campaigning. Voting for a candidate while campaigning against that same candidate is an action that confuses other people, because it's self-defeating.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 3 weeks ago (5 children)

So we've moved from "you have to vote for the Democrats" to "you can't publicly criticize the Democrats"

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[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)
  • Brillo-Padding
  • Tire-Kicking
  • Backyarding
  • Barney-Rubbling
[–] [email protected] 7 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Barney-Rubbing

I misread and had so many questions about Barney the big purple dinosaur.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 weeks ago

These are nonsense words

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