wait they tryna tell us fucking FOX and FORBES are reliable, centrist outlets?
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It’s telling how the graph says “media”, and not “news”. Fox will claim to be news right up to the point that someone sues them, at which point their lawyers will claim that whatever statements they made that got them in trouble can’t reasonably be interpreted as facts but rather entertainment and opinion.
This is literally just horseshoe theory, graphed out.
They put the daily wire and daily mail above the decent reporting of Rolling Stone. This chart is bullshit.
And the right wing rag that is the Wall Street Journal is right in the middle.
Has something changed about TMZ in the last decade too warrant them appearing so high on the chart? Thought they were just a celebrity rag.
I guess the content they cover is silly, but if the coverage is unbiased and factual, that results in an improved score.
That may be a celebrity rag still but I do remember them breaking some deaths before anyone else. That is still considered news to some.
Yeah I always knew Propublica was a good source.
Fox News is less biased and more reliable than MSNBC, apparently
The lack of any deviations above the curve, is an indication of the flawed nature of the analysis.
It certainly implies to me that only centrist views are correct, which I'd push back against.
Here's another version including web-based shows and podcasts:
Why is Jimmy dore on the left?
Joe Rogan is not that in the middle anymore.
Bellingcat does amazing work.
WIBC is a news/talk radio station in Indianapolis. It's a combination of local and syndicated shows. I have no idea why it's on that chart.
As a local, I was very curious to see that on the chart, too. Bizarre.
Wait, Pew is in the middle? They are funded by the templeton foundation. I've also noticed they also do sketchy things with publications, like what they have on their homepage is not the same as the published, I assume peer-reviewed, article. They seem to keep the exagerations on the website, but in articles they tone it down. If they are on the top, that seems like a low bar.
Hats off to Barstool Sports for managing to create low information content that both sides can appreciate.
Forbes being middle left is the perfect illustration of the Overton window theory.
Yeah these ratings are literally just based on the opinions of three analysts from the left, right and center which are then averaged together. They're obviously going to be biased by their particular country, culture and upbringing, both in how they label themselves and how they rate the different articles.
Just for reference, in the expanded chart that I just shared they put Russel Brand and Joe Rogan in the center and Jimmy Dore on the right.
Same for how little Fox News is to the right.
I can’t find CNN or Reuters on this chart. Can someone help me?
CNN(tv) is at: ("skews left", yellow(high)).
CNN(web): ("skews left", green(mid)).
I'm not seeing Reuters or it's logo.
Nor Politico, Economist, The Guardian. But at least we have Tom's Guide here in case you wondered if Tech guides have a bias...
I'm disappointed they left out The Onion
In the middle on the bottom.. LoL... They equally make fun of everyone.
They're obviously left leaning, they just don't tow the line, or hold back when valid criticism is deserved.
The Guardian is on there, 2nd Row, 5th Column. They just used a very small G logo for it so it's hard to spot.
Can't find Reuters though.
'American Thinker'. Isn't every American not on life support an American thinker?
Qatar based Al Jazeera “skews left”. Yeah, I don’t think so. What a joke.
They do indeed skew left. Read their news sometime. It can be enlightening to get an outside perspective from a group that generally opposes our foreign forays of death and destruction.
It skews “non-Western”, which doesn’t work well on a chart like this.
No true Scotsman eh?
No Infowars? There's a great spot for it in the bottom right corner.
So far down it didn't make the chart I guess
Boing Boing used to be a fun feed for silliness and classic counterculture. Now it's just page after page after page of American politics at its worst.
Not knowing shit about american media, I'm both surprised and disturbed how much worse it still seems to get after Fox News.
In reality, everything from the New York Times rightward should actually be stretched about one section over to the right. There are very few publications that are legitimately in the "skews right" camp these days; there's just no money in it. Outlets in that section are vilified by right wingers for being leftists (even though they're not) and they're ignored by the left for being conservative partisans (which is accurate).
That said, yes; Fox, having changed very little about their programming, is now one of the least partisan right-wing sources. (Even though they're incredibly right-wing.) The Overton Window has shifted drastically.
Fox News should be way further down on the bottom right.
Compared to the other stuff on there, I wouldn't say so unless they move everything in the neighborhood of Daily Wire as well. It really does get that much worse.
Needs more JPEG. I could almost make out some of those logos.
I saved the image straight from the source, any compression is due to lemmy
Im not shocked by any of them. I think tech dirt should be a little higher and the verge a little lower but otherwise makes sense