Here's a fantastic case for a union. There simply MUST be a minimum number of personnel looking after any given airspace for it to be considered safe, or the whole area gets shut down. It really is pure insanity, and no single person should be responsible for all flights at an airport. If something bad had happened who would get blamed? Who would live the rest of their life knowing they had been taken advantage of and put in a position where over a hundred lives were lost? It's simply unacceptable that one person should bear that responsibility.
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I see lots of dead people in the future of flight.
Some of these flights are gonna end up on the Mentour Pilot Youtube Channel.
(Its a channel about aircraft incidents/accidents, very informative and worth watching if you have an obsession with aircrafts)
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Here is the neat part. ATC controllers in training needed a huge bump in recruiting numbers 10 years ago. These jobs aren’t something you can pull people off the street to do. There can be zero mistakes, trainees need to be vetted and undergo tons of hours in training and education to be experienced enough to work unsupervised in the tower.
I reckon we are past the point of no return with the current system. Either we are going to see a reduction in operational airports or we are gonna see a lot more automated systems directing traffic.
Haven’t you been paying attention? AI will do it.
Yeah, that’s what they just said, Al from Newark did it all for a full 3 hours.
The man’s an absolute megamind.
Al AI huh can't tell them apart. Font failure.
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They should have walked out.
Idk about this one, there were many lives at risk.
Announce shutting down the airspace and divert aircrafts to other airports, then leave.
Yup
Are there no politicians or billionaires in New Jersey that fly? Cuz this affects them too. Fix it assholes.
That's what Taterboro (TEB) is for.
Only private jets can land there due to its runway weight limit, it's the oldest still operating airport in the NYC area, hell Charles Lindbergh and Amelia Earhart flew out of it when JFK was still some farm land.
Easy ride into the city via the GWB or a helio
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They probably have a chauffer drive them out of the city to a smaller airport while their personal assistant makes sure they get everything else done on the car on the way.
Same air space.
Depends on how far out you go.
And high you fly
How far do you think that would have to be and I'm pretty sure New York's airports overlap their air space. Not sure why you wouldn't want the assholes to fix this.
They want the asshole to fix it, they're just being skeptical about it because assholes have a tendency to not fix things at all.
Move fast and break things: air traffic controller trainee edition
There needs to be a nationwide, unionized air traffic controller “consultant” business formed for when the shit hits the fan. Pay these people what they deserve to fix the disasters that will be caused by their ill treatment.
You forget the last time ATCs tried to stand up for themselves, Regan fired the entire industry and made the air force pick up the pieces until replacements could be trained. They should be considered as invalueble to society as doctors, but just like teachers, their industry is turbo fucked by their own managment.
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