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This is a very low-information announcement here but if this is taken to the extreme, it means that DuckDuckGo, Qwant, and many other so-called "alternative" search engines are going to either have to look for a new provider of results, or die.

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[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 hours ago

Thurott's article on this implies that "big customers like DDG will be unaffected". Though he also says information is scarce.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 10 hours ago

Swisscows ? Mojeek ?

[–] [email protected] 20 points 1 day ago (6 children)

Shiiit, I really don't want to go back to Google and all their sponsored/AI/tracking bullshit. Any other privacy-focused search engines out there that don't rely on this?

[–] [email protected] 6 points 18 hours ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 2 points 6 hours ago

That anonymizes Google results. It's Google, all the way down.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 21 hours ago (1 children)

You think Microsoft gives you privacy?

They make billions on targeted ad revenue.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 17 hours ago

No, I use duckduckgo which is powered by Bing's API. Hence why I said other privacy-focused search engine.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 21 hours ago

Mullvad Leta is at least google minus the tracking.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 day ago (2 children)
[–] [email protected] 4 points 6 hours ago

American company though. Not supporting that

[–] [email protected] 2 points 22 hours ago (3 children)

Yeah I'm far too used to getting my search for free to pay for it. I'll fuckin' use chatgpt before I pay a subscription fee for that shit, even if it is a substantially better option.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 7 hours ago

Answers still Kagi. You get use of the basic tiers for all the big ai services.

You ever wanted to blacklist Quora from search results? You can do that too.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 18 hours ago

Look at you having standards.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 20 hours ago (2 children)

That's what I said before I used it, you can try it free for 30 days

[–] [email protected] -1 points 7 hours ago

This is why tech communities suck.

Too many shills and useful idiots trying to viral market bullshit.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

I looked at it briefly, the only free option I saw was 100 free searches, which will not last your average user anywhere near 30 days. Shit that might not last me 3 days depending on what I'm doing.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 hours ago

I think you overestimate the average user

[–] [email protected] -5 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Brave Search has its own index

[–] [email protected] 4 points 22 hours ago

Is that something built into the browser? i dropped Brave when I heard Google was forcing the adblock-gimping shit in Manifest V3 into Chomium. Also I was never entirely keen on their crypto-hawking bullshit.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

Shiiit, I really don't want to go back to Google and all their sponsored/AI/tracking bullshit.

I can tell you with confidence that I simply just won't.

[–] [email protected] -3 points 22 hours ago (2 children)

What's the alternative? I guess you can use chatgpt or whatever as a sort of search engine? shrug

[–] [email protected] 1 points 6 hours ago

searx, because it queries multiple engines that are accessible, and perhaps google frontends (whoogle, libre y, and that new mullvad thing).

but for the past years I was exclusively using duckduckgo and it would be very said if it would go away :( I started recommending it to others too

[–] [email protected] 5 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

people who use LLMs as search engine make me go 😨

my colleagues are doing it too, and I just want to yell at them that LLMs have no idea about reality, they will confidently tell you to eat glue

[–] [email protected] 0 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

If you tell the o3 reasoning model to just search the web and give you the top results instead of answering your query it can actually be really useful for obscure queries. I was able to find specific spec sheets for my model of monitor when a google search would only produce the specs for basically any other model the manufacturer made. Even with the model number in quotes

[–] [email protected] 2 points 6 hours ago

At the end of the day, it’s still an agent searching the web like a person, and its results are only good if search is decent.

[–] [email protected] 23 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

https://azure.microsoft.com/en-us/updates?id=492574

https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/bing/apis/pricing

So all tiers are getting discontinued.. Unless there is an unlisted custom tier? It's hard to imagine duckducgo only processing 250 requests per second. But then maybe that is enough and didn't they make their own index anyways? Maybe that was to ease the load

Oh and they suggest using ai instead

[–] [email protected] 26 points 1 day ago (1 children)

DuckDuckGo, Startpage, Qwant, Ecosia... the last two have been working together to make their own index, hopefully it's going to be usable by then.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 23 hours ago

I hope so, I don't trust MAGA owned Brave.

[–] [email protected] 49 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Wonder what their reason for this is.

[–] [email protected] 79 points 1 day ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 22 points 1 day ago

Something something money.

AI is just the latest hype train they're hopping in the hopes of making more money.

[–] [email protected] 37 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Unpopular opinion: Bing is better than Google in recommending Edge browser

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

I use Opera on a Mac for all my Bing-based Edge-recommending needs.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 day ago

Edge: when getting molested by sundar the creep ain't enough