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[–] 7rokhym@lemmy.ca 12 points 2 weeks ago

I use FolderSync. Works well and I prefer one app synchronizing files than 6. I still use the Nextcloud app for files I don’t sync that I need access to, but overall it’s really bad. The camera upload erased a ton of my pictures on a vacation. I deleted the synced pictures on my phone storage and the Nextcloud app overwrote the images as the new photos had the same file name.

[–] mp3@lemmy.ca 81 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

That and the process of being audited for your app to gain access to Google Drive is apparently a nightmare on top of being super expensive.

No wonder so many apps don't even bother adding the ability to sync files with like Joplin.

I hope the EU eventually crack down on that bullshit.

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[–] LeTak@lemm.ee 32 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Google be Like : just use Google Drive

What if , no….

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[–] JustARaccoon@lemmy.world 49 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

This and the fact gallery cloud provider API stuff is locked down to whoever Google gives permission to should get a lawsuit.

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[–] Reverendender@sh.itjust.works 8 points 2 weeks ago

"We don't care," - Google, probably.

[–] Zak@lemmy.world 179 points 2 weeks ago (4 children)

They bullied Syncthing the same way. Fortunately, Syncthing-fork is still developed and available on F-droid.

I understand a well-curated app store (which Play Store is not) placing some limits on apps getting all files access. In a modern security model, that's not a permission most apps should have, however synchronization and file management apps obviously should have it.

[–] brickfrog@lemmy.dbzer0.com 23 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

Was going to comment the same, this issue has existed for some time for other apps. LibreTorrent ran into the same issue and now the F-Droid version is their full-featured app while the Google Play version is restricted due to Google.

Interesting that Nextcloud managed to last this long on Google Play without running into the same limitations (until now that is).

[–] ripcord@lemmy.world 9 points 2 weeks ago (4 children)

Wait, why would libretorrent require all files access?

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[–] brot@feddit.org 145 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

And if you grant access to your own apps, but deny them to your competitors, that is totally a monopoly abuse

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[–] skip0110@lemm.ee 143 points 2 weeks ago (6 children)

Just switch to the F-Droid version.

Better: make sure all the apps you use come from F-Droid

[–] 0x0@lemmy.zip 13 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Obtaniun > F-droid > Aurora

[–] sommerset@thelemmy.club 3 points 2 weeks ago (4 children)

What is the point of obtainium ? Over fdroid?

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[–] kittenzrulz123@lemmy.blahaj.zone 7 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

Obtainium is better, get the apps directly from the source

[–] grue@lemmy.world 34 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

I actually like that the F-Droid maintainers check over the apps and warn about anti-features/stop offering new versions if they enshittify.

[–] Reverendender@sh.itjust.works 5 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Expand on this please. I am unfamiliar.

[–] kittenzrulz123@lemmy.blahaj.zone 5 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Its an open source software manager, you put in a source (like github) and it manages it (even doing auto updates).

[–] Reverendender@sh.itjust.works 1 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)
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[–] Gibibit@lemmy.world 23 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (6 children)

It's not as simple as telling people to use F-Droid. People with non-rooted phones won't get automatic updates via F-Droid which is a big hurdle. Unless I'm misremembering? I wouldn't know because I run rooted CalyxOS now. Last time I used F-Droid on a plain Android phone is a while ago for me.

[–] cyberwolfie@lemmy.ml 6 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

I run CalyxOS and have automatic updates from F-Droid.

[–] PlutoniumAcid@lemmy.world 0 points 2 weeks ago

But it won't work on your dad's stock Samsung Galaxy, right?

[–] Gibibit@lemmy.world -1 points 2 weeks ago

Yes, so do I. I phrased that a bit weird when I read it again 😅

[–] mp3@lemmy.ca 14 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

People with non-rooted phones won’t get automatic updates via F-Droid which is a big hurdle.

Not true if the app to update targets a high enough API version (I think API 34 or 35) and if you use F-Droid Basic.

NOTE: The Basic version of F-Droid Client has a reduced feature set (e.g. no nearby share and no panic feature). It targets Android 13 and can do unattended updates without privileged extension or root.

[–] idefix@sh.itjust.works 14 points 2 weeks ago

I have automatic upgrades on my non-rooted phone. I use droidify but i'm pretty sure the official F-droid client works the same way.

[–] claymore@pawb.social 29 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

They added that a while ago for all users on Android 12 and up

[–] exu@feditown.com 5 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

In the Basic version only, last time I checked the "original" F-Droid couldn't do it. And there's also some minimum API level an app has to target to be eligible for automatic updates (found that out through updating microg and having to click "update" still)

[–] sem@lemmy.blahaj.zone 11 points 2 weeks ago

I have the regular F-droid and it does automatic updates now.

[–] anamethatisnt@sopuli.xyz 11 points 2 weeks ago

I get update notifications from f-droid but have to update inside the f-droid app.

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[–] Blip6338@lemmy.ca 114 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

This works very well for tech enthusiasts and people who self-host nextcloud at home.

The issue is when you are a government or university, it becomes harder to get all your users (which are probably not all tech savvy) to install a third party app store deal with the Android warnings about installing from third-parties, etc etc.

And this is probably the user base Google are targeting with this move (assuming it's malicious) . When the higher ups complain that their files are not syncing and need to install things with a special procedure they sometimes wonder why they are not using M365 or Google which seems hassle free.

[–] Pika@sh.itjust.works 36 points 2 weeks ago

Not to mention the "see this big alert saying this isn't safe? Well for this one time it /is/ safe so do so" While curbing the mentality of "oh it was safe last time so it must be safe this time"

[–] sunzu2@thebrainbin.org 5 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

YAS KING!

As side note, for the uninitiated, it is a process. Check Fdroid first for all your apps. Many are there but some are not. This should prompt you to look for alternatives.

It is a journey but remember denying corpo parasite engagement and profit is the direct action any one can take today!

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