Asklemmy

I will continue to fight, annoy, and agitate the capitalist status quo. Majority of Americans do not agree with current politics, our current "leader", or oligarchs controlling everything.

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Yes. I do not believe there is any chance whatsoever to make America great again, as we were 1 year ago.

I’m not your target audience (sorry), as I left in 2021, but I left because I had given up on it during the pandemic when people couldn’t muster up enough care for each other to just mask up in public during a deadly pandemic. It was a combination of that and the realization that living in close proximity to my loved ones didn’t ensure I could visit them with any regularity, but that I could socialize with them from afar, so the pandemic gave me an impetus for and removed the main barrier from my emigration.

I was really missing a sense of community in a societal sense that I’ve found in Germany. My social circle is definitely smaller here, as I was pretty firmly rooted in the US, but strangers on the street are kinder (though not necessarily friendlier or nicer) to each other here and they take care of each other better. I live in an area with a specialized clinic for a certain handicap, so that plays a role, but there’s especially a lot of care taken for disabled people and the elderly, who are therefore a lot more present in the community. There are a lot of ways in which Germany is a lot more sink-or-swim than the US, but the most vulnerable people are embraced in a way that I find comforting and refreshing.

Nope. America has been through all of these things before. It's why reading history gives me a lot of comfort.

It's time to start working on dual power structures in your respective city.

I'm pretty much done with this country. My plan is to get whatever education I can, then skip off to the EU for employment and not pay any student loans that I happen to rack up.

If everyone gave up on a place when futures there look bleak, there wouldnt be a place left in the world worth living in.

I'm going to start with one phrase of yours that galls me: "voted wrongly". There's no such thing. There's votes that you or others disagree with, but no such thing as a wrong vote. And as long as you keep going with the narrative that any vote against your preference is wrong, you're going to make more enemies in places and times when you need allies.

As far as my own hope? I don't know. I only know that some people who were prosperous before are suffering now, and that some who were suffering are now prospering. I'm sure it will keep going like that. So I don't know if it's hope, but rather comfort in the knowledge that nothing ever ends. Giving up isn't an answer I can accept, so I have to keep going and do what I can to build a future for myself and those I love.

Given up? I don't know. I've been appalled pretty much non-stop since 2000, though. When we were taught history, the X'ers learned that the pendulum always swings back the other way. And when you looked back, the notion always kind of held water. But, draw a line from Nixon through Reagan, the Bushes, to Trump, and the conclusions you'll draw are pretty grim.

There was an influential statement that was true in 1990 that was haunting, though: “The only presidential democracy with [more than 41 years] of constitutional continuity is the United States.” (I think there are around 5 others now between 40 and 70-something years old now.) Despite having a long run, this system isn't particularly sturdy.

We'll see, I guess.

The US Empire cannot be reformed from within, it needs to be completely dismantled as a state. This new state needs to place indigenous Americans at the forefront as a starter for decolonization, must be Socialist in character, and comprehensively democratic with minority protections. The current US State works entirely off of Imperialism, and maintains hundreds of overseas millitary bases to terrorize the world into bending the knee. The state is not democratic, candidates are pre-approved by the capitalist class. Megacorps rule the US, and have dominance over both parties.

This does not mean "genocide against all who live in the US." Rather, it means that the working class of the US must overthrow the state and replace it with one run by and for the working class, in an anti-Imperialist and de-colonial manner.

I know you're looking for people currently living there, but I left not long after Trump got elected the first time (coincidence, not cause), and I feel like it's helped me be a bit more objective about it.

I've seen my dad go from a die-hard conservative who makes a couple edgy jokes to someone who isn't even trying to hide his support for Trump. At best, he says that Trump's statements are overblown, at worst he supports them wholeheartedly. It didn't improve under Biden's term, and his behavior was one of the big reasons I feared a Trump victory in 2024. He felt no need to hide what he had before (that is, if he had it then. It could have grown over time as well). There was no reform coming for him, just deeper entrenchment.

On the other hand, my sister and Mom represent some of another segment of the US. Neither one follows politics because they're just busy. When they do have time to relax, the last thing they want to do is catch up on things they've missed. Unless my sister has something blasted across her social media feeds, she doesn't know about it. My mom just doesn't really watch anything at all, mostly because she's dealing with her own stuff.

I got to see the US change drastically when Trump got elected, with issues that affected literally everyone, and it turned out that part of my family ignored it, and the part that did know about it supported it. I know my immediate family isn't a representative sample of the entire US (hell, they're not even representative of my entire family), but seeing is believing. I never would have thought that people could be like this, but if this can happen to people I know, it's not that hard to see it happening to others.

So, yeah. Even assuming Trump peacefully leaves power in 2029 (I've got no hopes of removal from impeachment), that's four years of destroying good will, soft power, government services, and legal protections, and this is happening just after we had a president who, at best, could stabilize the country a bit before building back some of what was torn down in the four years prior. This time, the administration is moving faster and with more purpose in some of these areas, too. Assuming it takes twice the amount of time to completely rebuild all that the Trump administrations have removed, that's still 20 years down the road to be at par with where we were 8 years ago. Foreign countries don't trust the US to not elect a lunatic. It can be a normal country, some day, but not until I'm old, and not without a lot of internal changes I don't see happening yet.

i have given up. I mean, I had when I was a developing young adult and while I am in my mid 40’s now, it’s only embiggened my concerns. it’s taboo here on .world but I truly think the problem is the current era’s phase of capitalism’s expansion especially with the adaptation to technology in the last 50 years.

there was, truly, no time when this country was great; and I’d posit there is no time when any country is as they exist to extract and exploit.

there is no where to go.

so what I do and have done for 20 some odd years now is try to affect (effect??) change in my community. my “city” is like 14k people. I am a firefighter, first responder, and help where I can elsewhere when I see it. i vote. make my concerns known at town hall, especially against how much our PD is expanding due to “safety” horseshit. I help others vote, I mean to say help them realize they can, where to go, etc. I joke but am kind of serious too when I tell our selectmen that the reason I like supporting my small town is because we know where they live. They get the point with a chuckle and then ask for my votes.

Only half my life ago, but as a surly teen I didn't yet have the vocabulary to explain why

There are some lovely, smart and aware people in that huge country. It's not homogeneous. But overall? It won't get much better without a revolution. And that's a huge ask. It's possible, other countries have managed despite police repression and mass illiteracy, but it's a long journey, and I wouldn't be surprised if the people with the awareness and the means will just try fleeing instead.

No, but the country has problems. It's always had problems. Even with all of the economic hardship and political strife we have today, most people are safer, healthier and have better prospects today than they have had in most of US history. It's by no means perfect and we have a lot of work to do. But, giving up and checking out has never improved anything. It also doesn't help that we have a steady drip-drip-drip of negative information fed to us by our phones and algorithms. We are also facing one of the largest Constitutional Crises in US History, with the President pushing the boundaries of his Constitutional powers. Even if nothing breaks, we are likely to see many changes from all this. Hopefully, those changes result in better guardrails on the Presidency. And maybe even a repudiation of the Roberts Supreme Court. But, such a future is hard to see when we are in the middle of the storm.

I even have hope for the slight voting majority which put Trump back in power. It's easy to dismiss those folks as a bunch of . And some of them almost certainly fit those descriptions. However, there are a lot of them which are just scared and confused by the FUD sandwich being fed to them by the 24-hour news cycle, social media algorithms and politicians looking for easy votes. It's going to be hard work to pull them back off the brink. And if you're not up to that work, I understand. It's hard to want to put in the effort for folks who seem so far gone. I've spent a lot of hours arguing with folks with whom I disagree wholeheartedly. It's tiring and I can only take so much before I decide it's time to move on for a while. But, I would rather keep up the argument than let the country slide into full blown autocracy.

So ya, I have hope. It's a grim hope and one which recognizes that we could lose. But, giving up now feels premature.

America has been dead to me for years. It’s a crumbling empire and I have no respect for any of its leadership. I will never give up on myself or the working class, but we have far too much rabid individualism and egos to work together.

The people will weather the storm and come out the other side, albeit differently, but any semblance of government here is trash. Both parties are nothing but greed-driven parasites and everyone knows it. The new generations aren’t fooled by the same bullshit propaganda and the ruling class knows it. That’s why they’re ruling with an iron fist and the cops have zero accountability.

Cop cities going up everywhere; a military base on every continent; Israeli money weaving into everything; the Democrats are useless fucks; the Republicans are unmasked fascists. This country is in the final stages of late capitalism. I don’t want to live here and haven’t for years, but I persevere for family and friends. I’ve already told my wife if a revolution ever happens, I’m probably going to be the 65-year-old man that dies in it.

This is something my fellow Americans need to come to terms with:

I'm not seeing much hope in the future, so yes I've given up. I want to leave so goddamn bad.

Absolutely. Left America 15 years ago. The culture is glorified narcissism. The culture believes the earth is infinite. The culture believes they are the best in the world. The culture believes any criticism is self hatred and must be removed.

I left almost 10 years ago lol. It was always going to get worse before it gets better. This too shall pass.

I think America will walk back from this particular brink, but I don't think the American people have the chutzpah to liberate themselves from their shackles.

C'est la guerre, I wouldn't raise kids here.

Yep.

I've never taken down on them to begin with