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[–] [email protected] 2 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Lemmy is gonna get forked if this guy won't get a grip on himself

[–] [email protected] 3 points 5 days ago

If Lemmy was written in a more popular open source language it would have been long ago lol

[–] [email protected] 3 points 5 days ago

"Gee I wonder why people are so mad at us for building this platform"

[–] [email protected] 6 points 5 days ago (2 children)

I kinda regret donating now lol

[–] [email protected] 4 points 4 days ago

Sadly this is why I did NOT donate. I've been on Lemmy since it was lemmy.ml and holy shit the hate I got. People calling me CIA for posting articles from NPR in a NEWS community. They have a right to believe what they want. Again, that's why I've moved to PieFed Social. Again, power of the Fediverse. If you don't agree with the route the devs are going, either work on your own, or support someone working on an alternative. Maybe it'll create silos, but those silos all work across each other, so not really unless they cut each other off. I'd rather support Rimu though personally.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 5 days ago (1 children)

LMAO, if it's a recurring one just redirect it to your instance instead, let them have their small bump for the month lol

[–] [email protected] 2 points 5 days ago

I donated both to my instance when they asked and to the Lemmy dev team. I don't do monthly payments (subscriptions and donations) because I'm bad at organization and want to make it easy to keep track of my expenses.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 5 days ago (1 children)

May I recommend the wonderful Piefed.Social? :-)

[–] [email protected] 2 points 5 days ago

We have pie! And our main dev isn't participating in the "be the most cringe person on the Internet" contest!

[–] [email protected] 9 points 5 days ago (1 children)

I'm from South Korea. I hope dessalines would shut up about North Korea anything.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 5 days ago (1 children)

One of the very first bans I caught on Lemmy was pointing out to some tankie that I actually have family in China, speak the language, and have been there many times, and was therefore more qualified to comment on Chinese politics than some edgy western teenager.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 4 days ago (1 children)

What are your opinions on it?

[–] [email protected] 3 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (1 children)

It's complex and my interaction is mainly with fairly educated and well off Shanghainese who aspire to have their children leave China. The Fudan to Harvard pipeline, as it were.

People are proud of what China has accomplished, but many educated Chinese do want more. They understand that the party holds them back, and that a lot of oppressive Chinese policy is driven by, "protect the sins of the father" stuff. They are thoughtful, philosophical and very aware of the world outside both Shanghai and China.

I will admit that my language skill is nowhere near good enough to really get into it, so some of this is definitely vibes. In a weird way, urban Chinese have a lot in common with older US neocons, in that they hope globalization lifts them up, but they are also wary of western liberalism and its perceived desire to destroy their cultural folk heroes. Even though they understand their heroes are flawed, they don't want to see them through a westernized lens. Again, these topics are really pushing my fluency.

Most of them are legitimately scared of talking about certain topics. My grandfather in law was an academic, and was persecuted during the cultural revolution and lost a hand at some point but nobody will discuss how. He told some of the story on his death bed but I do not understand his dialect well enough to know more than it was maybe a farm accident, but that might be a euphemism.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 days ago

That's horrific.

What about china's communism and capitalism?

[–] [email protected] 7 points 5 days ago
> Hungary is excluded from the list

In general, I do agree that we must learn from the successes of past systems, but we also must learn from their failures, or else we're doomed to repeat them. Issue is, these people that are usually from western countries that like to pretend everything bad Stalin did is fake news by the capitalist class, just like our far-right likes to pretend many things the nazis did are just Stalinist propaganda to make everyone right of Lenin look bad.

Democracy is unironically good, and the main issue is politicians conning their voter base, not that we have the wrong kind of strongmen leaders in position.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 5 days ago (1 children)

"If you're from this area" MFs when my Australian ass shows up:

[–] [email protected] 9 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (1 children)

"This is democracy manifest!"

[–] [email protected] 3 points 5 days ago (1 children)

I watched a video about that guy and his story is crazy.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 5 days ago (1 children)

I’m curious now. Do you remember what the video was?

[–] [email protected] 8 points 6 days ago

Saw this and was struck by how close the outline looks to a contiguous US map.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 6 days ago

lmao, okay goodbye mainstream LGBTQ political power.

[–] [email protected] 31 points 6 days ago (1 children)

The irony that most tankies are in the bubble.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 6 days ago

They what they are doing. I don't know or understand why but they can't be that delulu IMHO

[–] [email protected] 11 points 6 days ago

looks at map

Greenland and Canada's Arctic Archipelago are presumably going to have to be pulling some double shifts on commenting.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 6 days ago (1 children)

instead of learning from their successes

[–] [email protected] 5 points 5 days ago

I thought we did. All the good things were implemented by many european and other countries. Some even before communists took over. But they're ignored and bad since they didn't murder millions.

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