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[–] [email protected] 9 points 9 months ago (1 children)

I don't want Texas to secede, they would be a shitty ass neighbor.

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[–] [email protected] 6 points 9 months ago (3 children)

Texas in succession would not look unlike the West Bank before October of last year.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 9 months ago (6 children)

A shitshow of Israelis shooting other Israelis while secessionists pop out of house windows firing RPGs and tens of thousands of civilians are slaughtered needlessly?

As a Houstonian... shit sucks and I would prefer we not.

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[–] [email protected] 24 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Cool, let’s pull back their federal funding and see how things go

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[–] [email protected] 8 points 9 months ago

Another afflicted with magabrain.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 9 months ago

I ducked into Texit Twitter yesterday and it's like an Alamo cosplay, an entirely fictional version of events is everywhere where there's somehow a 10th Amendment right to secede and Abbott is proving state supremecy by not complying with some deadline the federal government gave them to comply with the Supreme Court order. As if it was Iraq not abiding by Bush's demands and thus initiating war instead of the obvious actual situation where they are going to be sued again.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 9 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 30 points 9 months ago (2 children)

Biden should call them the fuck out. Immediately withdraw all federal funding, including anything paid for by the government like power plants and highways. Let them suffer until they're willing to play nice with the rest of us.

[–] [email protected] 22 points 9 months ago (1 children)

That would be political suicide and motivate the red states against him for the election. He can point out that he's wrong because of those in a funny way. But actually doing something about it would be detrimental to his election.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Like red states aren't already motivated against him? That's at least 90% of the reason Abbott is even doing this. Give old Joe a no win situation to deal with and take the focus off their abhorrent abortion and other human rights stances. Like, I know this involves drowning children with razor wire but he gets to control the narrative and move the focus off that.

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[–] [email protected] 48 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (2 children)

Obviously he'll flip into "federal authority is absolute" against states like California if a Republican (read: Trump) is president.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 9 months ago

The only legitimate authority is the party I'm a member of.

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[–] [email protected] -4 points 9 months ago (1 children)

This rules, critical support to the shithole of Texas in its war on America

[–] [email protected] 3 points 9 months ago

Watch it all burn, so they say.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Let them go and remove their risk from the power grid.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 9 months ago (2 children)

I believe Texas has its own power grid. Also, still, let them go.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 9 months ago

No. Fuck that. They want to leave the Union? FUCKING LEAVE TEXAS. Texas, the land belongs to us.

[–] [email protected] 28 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Am Texan. Am American. Love being both, and so do most of my neighbors. We aren’t seceding, and Abbott is an asshole of the highest proportion.

Also, we do have our own power grid. It sucks and nearly kills us on a regular basis. That’s Abbott’s fault too.

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[–] [email protected] 17 points 9 months ago

Tx threatens secession every other day. why does he wear boots. js

[–] [email protected] 6 points 9 months ago
[–] [email protected] 7 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

LOL.

Hints at moving entire state to Mars.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 9 months ago

If he only had enough dick and balls in his pants to pull this through.

[–] [email protected] -2 points 9 months ago

Isn't Texas a democratic state? Like you'd have to have a vote to do something like that right?

[–] [email protected] 9 points 9 months ago (1 children)

I hope someone steals his wheelchair.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 9 months ago

So you take the going lower option in "when they go low, you go high" lol ... I had to upvote for the image of someone in the 21st century stealing a mobility device from a governor of Texas. Does Abbott deserve such treatment as a handicapped individual, debatable. But in his official capacity as Governor of Texas, absolutely!

[–] [email protected] 31 points 9 months ago (2 children)

Hmmm... 🤔

"states have a right of self-defense, under Article 4, Section 4 and Article 1, Section 10, Clause 3 of the U.S. Constitution."

https://constitutioncenter.org/the-constitution/full-text

Article 4, Section 4:

"The United States shall guarantee to every State in this Union a Republican Form of Government, and shall protect each of them against Invasion; and on Application of the Legislature, or of the Executive (when the Legislature cannot be convened) against domestic Violence."

I don't see a) anything there that defines "invasion" or b) grants the states the power to act if the United States chooses not to.

Article 1, Section 10, Clause 3:

"Section 10: Powers Denied to the States

No State shall, without the Consent of Congress, lay any Duty of Tonnage, keep Troops, or Ships of War in time of Peace, enter into any Agreement or Compact with another State, or with a foreign Power, or engage in War, unless actually invaded, or in such imminent Danger as will not admit of delay."

Again, "invaded".

It's pretty clear from section 10, since it's also speaking of troops, ships of war, and engaging in war that it means MILITARY invasion, not an influx of citizen refugees.

Dictionaries at the time back up that reading:

https://mises.org/wire/what-did-founders-mean-invasion

[–] [email protected] 3 points 9 months ago

It's in the Constitution! Democrats can never be the government of any state, only Republicans can create a Republican form or government.

Checkmate liberals!

[–] [email protected] 6 points 9 months ago

Rich of them to quote the U.S. Constitution when they're trying to leave - which would mean that they don't recognize the U.S. Constitution for being a foreign entity.

[–] [email protected] 28 points 9 months ago (2 children)

The great Texas economy won't fair to well when trade tariffs kick in and they stop benefiting from all the trade deals the US has.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 9 months ago

Imagine the reaction on day one when Biden nationalize all assets of Texas based companies that aren't within the borders. And day two when Biden decrees that us banks can no longer accept funds or distribute funds to Texas based entities. They'll have to create their own currency and deal with conversions that will not be favorable.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 9 months ago

In fact leaving the US is leaving NAFTA so it doesn't even require new tariffs they would immediately throw up trade barriers with their two (or three if you count the US) largest trade partners. Their economy would tank immediately.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 9 months ago

Do it. Go on.

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