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[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 week ago

WALLS are being chosen

[–] [email protected] 75 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Please promise to yourself right now that we will not let them be forgiven. We will not let whatever centrist Democrats convince us to "move forward" and "let us heal". These officers need to be given Nuremberg Trials. If we get control of this government, EVERY one of these ICE agents who raided or abducted even one person, get sent to prison. I hope for life.

I don't care if they have kids, lovers, parents, friends, grandkids. After these years there will be people dead, permanently traumatized, and permanently disabled.

[–] [email protected] 19 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Be it Constitutional or vigilante, justice will be served.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 1 week ago

If only the universe worked that way

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[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Why not, it helped for many nazis after the second world war. Many got convicted, but also many didn't.

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[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Thought they had qualified immunity?

[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 week ago (5 children)

Qualified immunity specifically does not apply in cases where someone's clearly established civil rights were violated, though the criteria for that is specific. Further, it applies only to civil cases, not criminal cases. It may certainly help them in some instances, but it's not going to be a blanket shield.

1 Was a constitutional right violated?

2 Was the right clearly established at the time of the alleged violation?

https://www.justia.com/civil-rights/government-violations-of-civil-rights/qualified-immunity/

Under this doctrine, government agents—including but not limited to police officers—can never be sued for violating someone’s civil rights, unless they violated “clearly established law.” While this is an amorphous, malleable standard, it generally requires civil rights plaintiffs to show not just a clear legal rule, but a prior case with functionally identical facts.

In other words, it is entirely possible—and quite common—for courts to hold that government agents did violate someone’s rights, but that the victim has no legal remedy, simply because that precise sort of misconduct had not occurred in past cases.

https://www.americanbar.org/groups/public_education/publications/insights-on-law-and-society/volume-21/issue-1/qualified-immunity/

While yes, IANAL, I'm exceptionally doubtful that clearly established constitutional rights aren't being violated by the behaviors of ICE under Trump, in many, many circumstances.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 week ago

Oooo that's cool

IANAA (I am not an American)

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[–] [email protected] 80 points 1 week ago (3 children)

Yeah…that would be cool but…this country isn’t big on accountability.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Yep, the lesser Bush and Trump I shows that Democrats are not interested in punishing crimes committed by Republicans.

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[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (2 children)

I mean the voters are the accountability. Seems like the right show up with weapons and plan A, B, and C that they have organised for the past year.

The left show up with knowledge of how to get arrested. And it's getting frustrating to watch. We need to start asking ourselves why they do things at can't muster half the strength for

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[–] [email protected] 132 points 1 week ago (3 children)

I fully agree, but.. this ain't no shit post.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 week ago

It is because ice agents are fucking piece of shits. Not even worthy of being called shits more like the stain left over.

[–] [email protected] 54 points 1 week ago (1 children)

You're right. Looks like we were the shit post all along.

[–] [email protected] 34 points 1 week ago (1 children)

The real shitpost was the friends we made along the way 😌

[–] [email protected] 21 points 1 week ago (1 children)

The real post is the shits we took along the way.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 week ago (1 children)

The real shits we posted yesterday

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Cross posted shits, every day

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 week ago (1 children)

And saved the rest of the shits for another day.

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