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As posted about recently in [email protected] and [email protected] it seems that @[email protected]'s stance on transphobia has not changed and his apology only seems to be that he was sorry he got caught and that someone leaked the DM. This is concerning for an admin of Lemmy.ml and the leader of the project. I don't think this means we should stop using Lemmy, it's open-source and even if they embed donation links, they can be stripped out in our fork. But it does make me wonder if we should consider defederating lemmy.ml on that merit. Since if they hold such views on trans issues, it's very likely they won't have any desire to act on that type of transphobia being expressed on their instance.

I know that Lemmy.ml has and does handle overt transphobia well, but I can't speak to their ability to handle less overt or thinly veiled transphobia, and this incident doesn't inspire much confidence either.

Edit: Since some people haven't seen the original. I decided to include it here. Warning, it contains transphobia, if you don't want to see that, don't open the spoiler.

CW: Transphobic talking points

I'd really like to hear Feedback from Blahaj's local community on this, I'm not as interested in outside opinions here so please try to refrain from top-level commenting if you aren't from lemmy.blahaj.zone (I will ignore them if you comment anyway from a remote instance).

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[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 weeks ago

We should defederate from lemmy.ml

[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

he regularly bans people for calling .ml users out on their denial of the Uyghur genocide. he was just one stone throw away from also denying the trans genocide.

this is why authoritarians should never get the benefit of the doubt, they'll never stick with just one dangerous belief.

[–] [email protected] -3 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

I'm disappointed in nutomic's statements as well. I won't be donating him any money, but it seems hypocritical to say you won't stop using Lemmy, but you want to defed from .ml.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

How? It's free and open source software. This sentiment just seems dumb. Where's the implication that using free and open-source software like Lemmy means you need to support the devs or federate with their server? I see no such rule, and it's not like they can stop or disallow you from using it (nature of open-source).

Anyone can host an instance and choose to run it however they like, the devs have no control in how or why people use Lemmy. It seems like a lot of people have trouble grasping this concept.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

I'm not talking about rules. How is using software maintained by nutomic fundamentally different from federating with an instance they run?

[–] [email protected] 5 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

The same way that having code on your computer written by stallman doesn't mean you support him or his views. Unless the creator backdoored it to do what they want against your authority, it doesn't mean a whole lot.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

OK sure, but how does federating (not even having an account here like me) with his instance mean you support nutomic or his views?

[–] [email protected] 9 points 3 weeks ago

Using a discussion forum moderated by someone is a completely different thing than using code written by them. A mod or admin of an instance has power to shape discussion on that instance.

It's not just about "supporting" him in some abstract sense, it's about potentially exposing blahaj users to the very hate that blahaj is meant to be a safe space from.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 3 weeks ago

When did I say that? I said we should consider defederation as a community because transphobic views of an admin are risky and may lead to inaction towards transphobia on that server. That's the whole reason why we defederated feddit.uk before this, which is why I wanted feedback on this, from the local Blahaj.zone community.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

yea let's defederate.

somthin somthin terf-tankie-whatevr... somthin along those lines... i dun evn kno whad those words mean

[–] [email protected] 7 points 3 weeks ago
  • TERF = Trans Exclusionary Radical Feminists (transphobia)
  • Tankie = Apologists for outright oppressive, murderous regimes like Putin's Russia and North Korea
[–] [email protected] 20 points 3 weeks ago

seen a couple of TERFs get bullied off of my fedi TLs lately and it warms my heart

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