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Our team is currently working on resolving the connection issues experienced by our Linux users, so the app will be temporarily unavailable. We apologize for the inconvenience.
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From the team:
Our team is currently working on resolving the connection issues experienced by our Linux users, so the app will be temporarily unavailable. We apologize for the inconvenience.
When Drive on Linux ?
According to Andy the timeframe depends on the level of the integration they want to achieve. Andy said he could see an Ubuntu version arriving in the next probabably 24 months, longer to be at the point where the major linux distributions are supported and lets say 90% of Linux is supported.
TL;DR: No further info or ETA.
https://youtu.be/Dp7ght2fMR4?t=2584 (Interview is from December 2023)
Generally, as a Linux user, I'd suggest the interview above.
What’s the ETA of Windows and Mac public release?
You're in the public release announcement post ;-)
Tried the app (Windows).
Firstly, it uses lots of CPU on a pretty powerful machine (7945hx). It at least takes 1-3% idling and up to 40-60% while doing basic tasks.
Secondly, I haven't found jack shit related to background processing for notifications and updates. Wouldn't this be the primary reason to have an app - to get status updates immediately?
Thirdly, it's just a web version with exactly the same UI, exactly the same settings and so on. It literally works better in Firefox than the app itself.
I don't see any reason to use the app over web version in a browser. No, really.
Lol y'all work with the feds
Probably an electron app.
I don't understand who the email apps are for, installing the website as a PWA is a better experience.
Not a Firefox user, eh?
Don't get me started on Firefox PWAs.
I use Firefox, but I have to use a different browser for PWAs, it sucks. If I'm lucky, Epiphany works with that website, otherwise I have to use some Chromium browser. Bleh.
I did that for a while but the links in the PWA kept opening in that browser instead of Firefox. That's why I prefer to use Electron apps, because links open in FF.
I don't care. Wait, strike that: I DON'T GIVE A FUCK, I want a Drive Linux app. I can read my mails very fine in a browser, thank you - but my files? I need them in my filesystem please.
Yeah, I saw the video with the boss on TLE channel, "ooh it's so hard because diversity in Linux". I don't care. Do a flatpak limited to ext4 and btrfs. Do an rpm for Fedora and deb for 'buntues for all I care. Get us limited support instead of whining about impossible unlimited integration.
I am not happy being on a Year Plan without any hope of a solution in a timespan of a full year.
God what a bunch of whiny motherfuckers in this sub. Thanks for this. I like Thunderbird with the bridge but I might give this a shot, the android apps are good so I'm thinking these will be too.
I like Proton, but I've never wanted a desktop app. Thunderbird is great. It's super annoying to need the external connection client. I'd rather they just spent the energy on native Thunderbird support without a second GUI.
I would prefer they add caldev and carddev to the bridge app so thunderbird can have access to calendar and contacts. I feel that would be better setup for power users, but the integrated desktop app helps normies adopt.
Do we like this over bridge? That hasn’t been halve bad on Mac.
Any chance of being able to double click to open a message in a new window? The messages are getting cutoff in the client on MACOS unless I maximize the window.
Since it’s just an Electron app, any luck we’ll get that UI on tablets? The iPad app is just a larger iPhone app, it kinda sucks.
Linux clients are currently only available as .deb or .rpm packages. Just a heads up for folks.
Could someone extract them and rebuild it as a Flatpak?
Will they publish on flathub?
Ah, looks like an Electron app. Disappointing, but unsurprising.
And also ironic. Because they're called Proton and they're using Electron to make their app (it's chemistry, ♀️🐶)
Opposites attract
Electron app
Shame. I do my best to avoid the resource bloat of electron apps whenever possible.
I mean, when my own iron - dual 12-core 24-thread Xeon E5, 128Gb RAM - sees non-trivial impacts from just two or three Electron apps, I do my best to nip that in the bud by avoiding all that crap.
What’s so hard about building a traditional app? With DotNet you could build a single program for all three platforms, and you could bundle DotNet up into that app such that it doesn’t even need a separately-installed sandbox like Java does.
As a .net dev I agree this would be ideal, but I don't do UI much these days so I don't know what's out there for frameworks right now.
I do know one thing that's out there in spades tho, and that's "full stack" JS devs. :P That's probably what's "so hard" about building a traditional app.
There aren't any great cross platform UI frameworks for .net. There are a few out there, but they are not as robust as what you can do with stuffing a react app into electron.
From what I have seen, AvaloniaUI is getting really close to being the ideal framework for cross-platform desktop use. It has become very polished over the last two years.
MAUI on the other hand, has been falling flat on its face on desktop because it is geared much more towards mobile.
For linux? Oh shit :(
Could you explain for a layman why this is disappointing?
Plenty of companies started using electron for writing cross platform apps, these apps(electron) use JavaScript engine, which makes it easy to develop these apps but as a tradeoff it uses more system resources than your regular native apps. And when they all do it(discord, vscode, steam etc.) you ask, why the hell do I need these dedicated apps if all they do is just start up a browser? I can just open another tab in firefox or whatever and be done with it.
As others said, it's basically chrome bundled with the website code so it looks like an app. And while Electron does offer devs the ability to do things a webapp can't, it still brings the chrome browser engine along with all the inefficient ram usage and potential for security flaws that implies.
It’s just the web version wrapped inside an app, not an actual, true, software application.
Electron is basically the "lazy" way of doing things, and not terribly different from progressive web apps. It's basically a browser that looks like an app. And it's more resource and battery intensive.
This is my uneducated understanding so...
It is truly uneducated. While it’s true that the “UI” part is web you can interface with the OS level api so it’s not that different than a real software
They could have at least used Tauri.
Not familiar with Tauri. Guess I'll go google that, but what's your reason for suggesting it as a preferable alternative?
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Tauri uses the system’s native web rendering engine instead of shipping Chromium with the whole app. As a result you get much smaller app bundles (like 10 MB for a complex app), better startup times and less RAM usage. The downside is that you need to do slightly more testing but the end result is worth it.
I agree, Electron is a nightmare to work with