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I'm talking about a new game but made with old graphics and mechanics similar to Megaman 9 & 10.

I personally think such a thing could sell gangbusters and honestly go on record as one of the greatest Pokemon games ever made, especially in recent years.

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[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Pixel art will always be great but...do you really need another fucking Pokémon game?

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Nope, but fans would like one. If you don't want one I don't see what the problem is if you just disengage from the series.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

So I cannot critique the idea because some fan would like this? I don't see your point here, I'm interested in videogame as art, not to commercial success.

We also already know what fans bring to creator, look at Netflix series...people don't really know what they want.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

I read your comment less as critique and more as "fucking fans who like Pokémon" but I have a history of confusing harsh tone for a negative "you can't like this thing, because I think there is too much of it" attitude.

Also, your original comment only says "do you really need another fucking Pokémon game?" It's a statement of you not wanting to see another Pokémon game, but besides making a reach and guessing you think they are producing too many too fast, taking a quantity over quality approach, or that the series has reached its end by now and is being overplayed, it does not provide any actual critique of them. Not even a "the [specific thing in game] is awful" with no more elaboration. So I do not really see critique of ideas, just a statement of dislike.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 day ago

You're guessing right, that was the critique, a statement can be a way to critique.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 days ago

That's called corromon. But yes in several ways the old sprites were better

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 days ago

Old graphics sure but mechanically Pokémon games kinda suck, especially the older ones. I'll be honest I love the collection and monster part of the game but everything else is simply bad and I usually give up after 10 hours. It's such a pointless slog.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 days ago

An old style game would be perfect for mobile. Not too graphically intensive so battery won't drain as fast as Pokémon Go and should run on even budget phones.

They could then keep the 3D games for consoles.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 days ago

I want a Pokémon MMO

I want a real 3rd person open world coop Pokémon game, instead of Nintendo attacking indie devs that are eating their 30 year old lunch Nintendo never felt like eating.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 days ago (1 children)

HD/2D Johto remake let’s fucking goooooooo

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 days ago

username checks out

[–] [email protected] 5 points 3 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

Absolutely yes. I much prefer the 2D Pokémon artstyle to the 3D models.

Also [email protected] might like this question—kind of saddened to see things that would fit in active niche communities only ever get posted in a giant Games community, but it is also very unfair of me to expect everyone to know every community ever, and you generally get rewarded with more engagement in the big tent communities. Went and crossposted it myself, people answered

[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (2 children)

I really stopped caring for Pokemon after X and Y, and Omega Ruby and Alpha Sapphire. The switch games were big misses. I kinda liked Sword and Shield, but they had no lasting power on me. Scarlet and Violet are by far the worst Pokemon games to have ever come out of mainline Pokemon.

I didn't play through ~~Marcus~~ Arceus at all, even though I own it. Maybe I will give that a shot.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Took me a little to realize Marcus was autocorrected Arceus. Pokémon Marcus sounds amusing.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 days ago

Thank you for the laugh, I didn't catch that. Will edit my comment

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)

Isn't this what Brilliant Diamond and Pearl were supposed to be? Granted had none of the fun stuff extras that omega ruby and sapphire added, but that was still the premise, right?

3d Pokémon can be done well and beautifully. Pokémon coliseum proved that years ago

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 days ago

I didn't play those more than the first gym. ORAS was infinitely better.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 days ago

3D was a mistake. Gen 5 is peak graphics

[–] [email protected] 6 points 3 days ago

I want to see pokemon red/blue/yellow absolutely fully maximum modernised. I want to go through the world in VR. I want to throw the poke balls into battle for real stashed on my belt. I want to be able to yell commands to a living, breathing pokemon dancing around in the arena.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 3 days ago

No.

I'd want to see a mainline Pokemon game that actually meets in the middle between experienced players and newcomers. An entry that isn't seemingly too convoluted or stupid simple to approach, not to mention try to be interesting as a story. But I think GameFreak has long passed that point of making it interesting. Like where can you go with the story and lore after you had a generation that presented pokemon that controlled time, space, distortion while introducing what is essentially a pokemon 'god'? You really cannot go far above and beyond that.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

at least to unova generation and a little 6th generation. not after MASUDA went all "i dont like pokemon anymore, so im going to create a half-assed game" aftER SWSH, and i have heard nothing but bad reviews from every game since, glad i dint get a switch.

they still have triple battles? and special and physical are not seperate anymore?

i mostly play card game LIVE, which is barely a functioning game.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)

Ever since the switch to 3D, I knew they would never look back. Biggest reason why fan games are so valuable to me. The only thing I like about the upper half gens (not including 5) are the pokemon (case by case and not including regionals) and the terastal mechanic, in terms of the games and their mechanics. Gens 6-9 I really don't have almost any care for any of the important characters outside of the designs for characters/character art for characters like Geeta, Diantha, Brasius, Kiawe, and Rika. Those are pretty much the only characters who's names I could even remember.

That's mostly due to, in my opinion, when I think they started absolutely dumbing and watering down the story and characters so they could start focusing on nostalgia baiting people to keep them coming back while also completely dumbing down exploration as well. I think two of the only characters from gens 6-9 I really care about were Lysander and Kiawe because I thought Lysander's genocide plot was interesting enough and Kiawe only because of the episodes of the anime I saw (which is kinda cheating since the anime is where they put every ounce of character into 99.99% of all important NPCs).

Pretty sure a large amount of fans would absolutely love returning to an older form, at least aesthetically, myself included, but good luck convincing Sintendo of anything without getting their corporate legal open secret stasi (lawyers) getting involved.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 days ago

Gens 6-9 I really don’t have almost any care for any of the important characters outside of the designs for characters/character art for characters like Geeta, Diantha, Brasius, Kiawe, and Rika. Those are pretty much the only characters who’s names I could even remember.

Not even Larry? That's cold.

[–] [email protected] 19 points 3 days ago (3 children)

Just go play pokemon unbound. It's better than anything nintendo would come up with.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 days ago

In general, Pokémon ROM hacks are cool and fans of the 2D or old game style like me should definitely give these more attention.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 days ago

Yup. Fan projects and indie games can fill this niche. Pokemon is the most profitable media franchise EVER. They should be innovating and improving, not chasing nostalgia.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 days ago

Wow I had no idea this was a thing and it looks A M A Z I N G. Thanks for mentioning it!

[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 days ago

I didn't really like the games when they were the new hotness and think the format of Arceus is way, way better.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 days ago

Not particularly, but I've played maybe 40 minutes of pokemon in my life total so my opinion probably shouldn't count.

More zelda like aLttP, though....

[–] [email protected] 5 points 3 days ago

If it means a return to random encounters, no absolutely not. There's a reason I don't go back and replay the older games even though I have fond memories of them. That reason is largely Zubat. Fuck you Zubat.

But also, aside from a handful of bugs and performance problems Scarlet/Violet and Legends: Arceus are the best the franchise has ever been. I'd rather they refine what they're already doing and keep making things better rather then regress purely to appease someone's misguided nostalgia.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 3 days ago (1 children)

I mean, this is just Cassette Beasts, and it is indeed a damn good game.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 days ago

Such a good vibe game.

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