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it's a beautiful place that's just as free as any other country.

Freer for the working class.
Less free for the bourgeoisie.

Not what you asked, but this footage from 1999 is kinda interesting https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pjIHe5VSHc4

It's clearly timed to coincide with the recent 50th reunification day anniversary, and yeah, I've seen a shit load of it on wechat. Wechat gets an awful lot of western propaganda from these mayfly accounts. Probably because I'm from the UK the algorithm feeds me this slop constantly. Recently there has been a lot of Vietnam nonsense, usually clips from war movies that portray the Vietnamese as inhuman monsters and the US as being somehow unfairly caught up in the conflict.

I fucking hate the west, I really do. So many gormless tourists wandering around Hanoi during this period who will go home having listened to and learned jack shit.

The Sympathizer on HBO was about as sympathetic as it gets. There’s still a lot of both-sidesing, but I think on the whole it slants against the US and the south Vietnamese regime.

Edit: should note that the author of the book identifies as a “Marxist atheist”:

I haven’t quite worked myself up to being a communist yet or an anarchist, but I might get there someday. But I’m comfortable saying Marxist atheist, because I grew up in the Catholic community. My parents are very devout Catholics. I just completely reject that. I feel comfortable. Marxism, I’ve read a lot of Marxist theory. I went to UC Berkeley, and I think you need Marxism because it’s the only valid critique of capitalism out there right now. You can’t trust capitalists to critique capitalism.

There's that episode of Hey Arnold where a Vietnamese character recounts his daughter I think getting on the last helicopter out of Saigon

I need to get a cable TV subscription just to report in about it here.

It's pretty much the same as it always was. Cobra Kai is a recent series and it had "Vietnamese POW camps were brutal prisons where they made people fight to the death!" A similar plot was in The Deer Hunter. Then there's that Mel Gibson movie about American troops being hit by human waves of Vietnamese.

Even """anti-war""" films like Born on the 4th. of July have brain worms. They casually drop a line about "having to kill babies" and it's said like that's not one of the most disgusting things a person could do. If a foreign army killed white, American babies, we'd never hear the end of it. That shit would be unforgivable for Americans. But when Americans admit to doing the same thing? It's "Aw shucks, golly-gee whiz! Look how bad it made our soldiers feel, who are obviously the true victims!"

Yeah, i could imagine ANZAC countries getting some weird propaganda, especially with its proximity to vietnam compared to the US. Where i am, it's not really a thing. Kinda disappointed tbh, i want to see a Vietnamese version of those Shen Yun shows.

I don't know how it is for you down under, but here in burgerland the North Vietnamese "Vietcong" have, for as long as I've been alive to remember, been portrayed as sadistic beasts who would capture our God fearing corn fed warfighters, torture them, and keep them in captivity for decades after the war ended. It's very common to see MIA/POW flags here.

At most, it's considered a war that was pointless and wasted thousands of American lives; next to no one cares about the many more Vietnamese lives that were lost (to say nothing about those who were bombed in surrounding countries).

Do you have examples?

If the US lasts another twenty or thirty years, that's probably how our media will start portraying the Republic of Afghanistan and the occupation there.

The US has never had a shortage of people who want to memory hole any embarrassing facts and rewrite history the way they think it should have happened.

I'm sometimes seeing the flag of the Republic of Vietnam on people's profiles. It shocks me, as at no point during the puppet government's history was it anything near a democracy or a human rights champion.

Also Vietnamese gusanos piss me off. They'll spend hours talking about some "[pro-capitalist] journalist jailed", and not bat an eye about the bombing and agent orange. Like come on, which is hurting the people of Vietnam more???