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When I was little (2000s) the consensus seemed to be that Vietnam was a shitshow. It was sort of not talked about because it was considered an embarrassment for the west.

Lately on Boomer TV I've been seeing a lot of stories about gusano Vietnamese that "escaped" the "eeeevil communist north Vietnam".

Shits weird. It's one thing to paint a country like North Korea as evil because it's easy to make shit up about an isolated country. But people can watch like a billion travel shows that show communist Vietnam is a normal ass country. The idea that people fled from that becomes less harrowing when you see that it's a beautiful place that's just as free as any other country.

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[–] [email protected] 43 points 1 month ago (2 children)

keep them in captivity for decades after the war ended. It's very common to see MIA/POW flags here.

and EVERYBODY believes this shit, even well educated libs who should know better. They all think Rambo 2 was based on a true story.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 month ago (2 children)

The flags being flown long after the end lean more on the MIA part. I had never heard about POWs being held into the 1990s; WWII had a lot of those stories though.

If you think EVERYBODY believes that shit you may need to surround yourself with other people.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 month ago (1 children)

owning up to being a lib

i-cant

lol, sorry comrade

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago

What are you quoting in your comment?

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 month ago (1 children)

MIA was borne from Nixon propaganda. It's wordplay to hide dead bodies and keep the fingers pointed at the enemy.

https://www.thenation.com/article/archive/enduring-cult-vietnam-missing-action/

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

First of all I learned a lot reading that article. It’s a great read that slings me toward more like it. But today the term MIA represents to those I know representing it that they have ones that never returned for whatever reason. The flags are still flown not because they think they’re still held captive, not because they have any opinion on the politics, not because they care about the history of the term, but because they don’t want to stop remembering those lost. It sucks it may cause people to think they’re sheep for believe the propaganda behind the term. They’re just trying to cope with losing a loved one for a reason no one can comprehend.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

They’re just trying to cope with losing a loved one for a reason no one can comprehend.

If you find all that interesting, you should give the Blowback podcast a listen. Start from season 1. None of this is incomprehensible, but someone sold us all on the idea we and the people around us are expendable. And that's some bullshit, my friend. Our lives have value and the answers to comprehension are out there when you're willing to look.

https://open.spotify.com/show/2pibBnPuHqKr07hxEMZE41

[–] [email protected] 19 points 1 month ago

I saw some myself earlier this week. Very normal, thinking The Deer Hunter was a documentary and not a gross inverse of what actually happened.