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[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 weeks ago

So can I just not do my job if it violates my morals?

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 weeks ago

On call on Sunday. "Doctor, please help!" "Nope, working on Sunday violates my morals."

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 weeks ago

Oh so now morality is wack huh.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 weeks ago

Cause fuck them! There’s our place…

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

get the good people out of america then nuke the fucking place. This is unthinkable. Hippocratic oath, anyone?

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

In america doctors don't take the Hippocratic oath anymore.. Doctors of medicine still take a modified version, but "Doctors of Osteopathy" take their own special oath where they have this wonderful little section which does a LOT of heavy lifting:

...to employ only those recognized methods of treatment consistent with good judgment and with my skill and ability, keeping in mind always nature's laws and the body's inherent capacity for recovery.

I will be ever vigilant in aiding in the general welfare of the community, sustaining its laws and institutions, not engaging in those practices which will in any way bring shame or discredit upon myself or my profession...

And, as I'm sure you can imagine, this leaves open to the interpretation of the reader what constitutes "natural law", "good judgment", the "general welfare of the community", or "practices which will bring shame or discredit".

Also, those Osteopaths, who are not even considered doctors in many international jurisdictions, still swear to hold to the principles of Osteopathy, a pseudoscientific quackery which says that anything your body needs to heal can be produced by your body. I'm sure you can guess how that relates to vaccines.

[–] [email protected] 20 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Can they also provide necessary procedures if it is required by their morals?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 weeks ago

Good point.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

In other words, they'll let lgbtq+ people, people of color, and women die...

[–] [email protected] 10 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

“Only the ones who deserve it.” - Tennessee Republicans

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Sad. Wish I could just leave for a sanctuary state, but I'm stuck there.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 weeks ago
[–] [email protected] 17 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

This is abhorent, but heat me out: part of me kinda likes this. I'd rather know immediately if a doctor doesn't want to treat me so that I can find one that does want to.

Can you imagine having darker skin color and being assigned to be treated by a doctor who cosplays KKK in his free time? I can't imagine he'll do the right thing, at worst he might outright try to make it worse or kill you. This at least gives you too the knowledge that your doctor will actually want to help you

Having said that, fuck Tennessee and fuck the united states of America

[–] [email protected] 14 points 2 weeks ago

"I'd rather know immediately if a doctor doesn't want to treat me so that I can find one that does want to"

Kind of hard to do if you're in the ER with say an ectopic pregnancy in Buttfuck, TN and there's one doctor on staff and if you're not treated immediately you die.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 weeks ago

freedom works well even when it is for the antagonist.

[–] [email protected] 19 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

A plain reading of the article suggests that it allows discrimination based on race, skin color, gender, and age. Of course we know that's the point, doctors don't want to treat minorities if they are racist pieces of s*** or otherwise bigoted, but what does the statute itself say?

The Bill of Rights is supposed to protect us against the government, but in some situations it can protect us against other people who are being discriminating f*** faces, but I have no idea what will happen now in Tennessee.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

You can swear on the internet, I won't tell mom.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Some instances censor their users' posts.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 weeks ago

Is that for real? Why would they do that?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 weeks ago

No insurance? Oh well, let them die..

[–] [email protected] 50 points 3 weeks ago (4 children)

If your morals compel you to deny care to someone, they are shitty morals, you are a shitty doctor, and you are a shitty human being.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

I would be interested to hear your take on the old manga/anime "Monster".

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

Mm, nah. First, few remarks to set context:

-the law is crap, no question about that

-whole morality concept is also crap as fuck, but let's say this crap did allow for some people to live longer and/or healthier

And now for the neat part or why I won't become a doctor unless forced by some apocalyptic shit: say, you know for sure the patient has caused and/or will cause immense harm and suffering to others (think killers and rapists, for example). Unless you are inhuman, you will doubt whether to help them and thus cause more suffering to other people or let this one die and prevent that, and there is nothing shitty about that.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 weeks ago

This also implies that the denying doctor is ok with breaking an oath to do no harm.

[–] [email protected] 20 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Double edged sword. My morals won't allow me to treat a Republican

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 weeks ago

... and lawyers.

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