this post was submitted on 02 May 2025
450 points (98.5% liked)

Technology

37794 readers
527 users here now

This is the official technology community of Lemmy.ml for all news related to creation and use of technology, and to facilitate civil, meaningful discussion around it.


Ask in DM before posting product reviews or ads. All such posts otherwise are subject to removal.


Rules:

1: All Lemmy rules apply

2: Do not post low effort posts

3: NEVER post naziped*gore stuff

4: Always post article URLs or their archived version URLs as sources, NOT screenshots. Help the blind users.

5: personal rants of Big Tech CEOs like Elon Musk are unwelcome (does not include posts about their companies affecting wide range of people)

6: no advertisement posts unless verified as legitimate and non-exploitative/non-consumerist

7: crypto related posts, unless essential, are disallowed

founded 6 years ago
MODERATORS
(page 2) 50 comments
sorted by: hot top controversial new old
[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

My only windows machine is my work laptop with windows 11 docked to three monitors. The other three are mint, endeavor, and qubes hosting several systems. I prefer Linux but the performance of the work laptop has never been an issue even if I don’t like it. I can reboot, connect to the vpn, have word relaunched to a recovered copy, and be back in a teams meeting with outlook open and Jira up in 5 minutes or less. I have to do it once or twice a month because something stupid stops working while I’m in a meeting. These 15 minute reboots, make coffee between, and other similar commentary comes across as wishcasting. There’s plenty of reasons windows sucks. My company has all kinds of stupid agents installed on it that negatively impacts performance also. McAfee was the worst, I’m glad they got rid of that but that wasn’t a windows problem either.

[–] [email protected] 49 points 1 day ago (1 children)

And this is how adding code to Word 97 for 28 years without refactoring works.

[–] [email protected] 20 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Interestingly they did the same with Word 97: loaded Office at startup so the individual Office applications would seem to launch faster.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 day ago

Microsoft products are just too big. At this point you need a lite/pro/full version. (No Microsoft, this is a fucking subscription idea) (always buy to own folks)

[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Windows already takes far to long to load. I turn on my Linux PC and by time I stand up to get a coffee it's ready to go, then I remember it's Saturday and I won't be using Windows 11 all blessed day!

[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 day ago (1 children)

OfficeClickToRun.exe is years and years old. This isn't a new thing at all.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

that's the c2r maintenance process. main job is to set up and update the local files for office.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 day ago

It's a maintenance process which preloads essential office files into memory for usage when you launch the different Microsoft applications so their startup time is reduced as well.

[–] [email protected] 30 points 1 day ago

Of course it's slow, it's full of telemetry, spyware and built-in AI junk, it couldn't be any different

[–] [email protected] 45 points 1 day ago (4 children)

I'm forced to use Windows due to work and damn is it slow. File explorer feels so sluggish compared to Dolphin

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 day ago

Yep, it's quickly becoming absolute garbage, I hate it more every day. Getting home back on Linux feels so much better.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 day ago

Agree, especially switching between tabs is sooooooo slow

load more comments (2 replies)
[–] [email protected] 26 points 1 day ago
[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 day ago

The fuck? LibreOffice/any office suite in a browser is better than this.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 day ago

shrugs in linux

Articles like this and the fact they're still trying to get recall back was reason enough for me to switch again.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (2 children)

Only if you have installed MS Office, it was one of the first thing which I deleted, among with other MS Bloatware and services "to improve the user experience". A clean Windows is a difference like day and night with the defauly one, in speed, stability and RAM usage. The specs of my modded Windows11 24H2 (Acer laptop)

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 day ago

Not sure what you want to show with that screenshot. It tells you that 700 MB of your installed RAM is reserved for your integrated GPU which doesn't really have to do anything with Windows.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 day ago

How'd you go about this? Currently forced to use windows.

[–] [email protected] 24 points 1 day ago (1 children)

They shouldn't have made it so bloated then. The 2003 version opened fairly quickly, even on a late 90's computer.

[–] [email protected] 28 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

i'm just surprised HOW they are able to make text editor apps so heavy and slow. seriously, HOW??

[–] [email protected] 23 points 1 day ago

There used to be a bug in ms word (idk if it's still there, it's been years since I last used any ms office app) where, if you had a separate printing server connected to a printer, and the printer was off but the server was online, it would try to fetch printer features, resulting in an unanswered request that would end up timing out. For some reason, word would completely freeze until the request timed out at 30s. No input worked, screen didn't refresh, window controls didn't work either. Completely frozen. And the worst part was that word would try to fetch printer features every time you clicked completely unrelated buttons. Want to export to PDF? Frozen for 30s. Want to save your document with a different name? First wait for 30s. Oh, you want to change the page size? You guessed it, 30s frozen.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 day ago (1 children)

CTRL-ALT-DELETE - Task Manager - Click the little fuel gauge on the left hand side to access and disable startup items.

Copilot? Disabled.
Microsoft 365 Copilot? Disabled.
Teams? Disabled.
Microsoft To Do? Disabled.
OneDrive? Disabled.
Phone Link? Disabled.
Xbox? Disabled.

Just add one more to the list...

[–] [email protected] 16 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Ctrl-shift-esc opens task manager directly.

load more comments (2 replies)
[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 day ago
[–] [email protected] 95 points 1 day ago (4 children)

Its horrendous, my work windows laptop the amount of crap just loading at startup is getting stupid.

[–] [email protected] 24 points 1 day ago

"Nah man you just need a little more AI bullshit crammed into all your apps." -Microsoft, probably

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 day ago (1 children)

my work windows pc used to fill almost the entire 8gb ram with just the crap that autostarted.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 day ago

Ive got 16gb in the work-provided machine... And I can safely say that more than half is just autostart crap.

Since I only use it for messaging/email, I don't much care tbh. Just kind of a fun to note for the laughs though.

[–] [email protected] 22 points 1 day ago (2 children)

They also make Edge launch at startup, it also never really closes when you "close" it.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 day ago

that bit you can turn off in edge settings.. but the webview engine stays because of widgets and probably some other bullshit.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Thats because of office I believe, since its using edge underneath.

Ah, the edgewebview2 crash. So consistent, so destructive.

This is why I'm glad I mostly just use it for teams, everything else is pretty much ssh from my main workstation (debian).

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Wait is the stupid lag in Word because it's running on Electron now???? That explains so much.

Edit: after a little bit of searching, it looks like it just loads webview2 to avoid having to load it if you open any of the add-in search panels. So the lagginess of new word is just inexcusable.

[–] [email protected] 66 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (5 children)

Most of my coworkers never turn their machine off, but I appreciate windows taking it's time. Warming up the work laptop in the morning is like a ceremony at this point. Solid 10-15 minutes to grab coffee, have a chat, check the feeds... Lol I wonder how much time/productivity is collectively wasted across the country from this crap.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 day ago

Including all the analytics gathering windows has to run on startup. What a pain.

[–] [email protected] 45 points 1 day ago

Every time you want a break just relax and if the boss shows up just restart your computer. Tell them you're waiting for the system to boot after it froze or installed an update.

[–] [email protected] 19 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Yeah, straight back 15-20 years ☕😋

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 day ago

I remember my morning routine around 2007-2008 in college before Linux was usable enough for me was turn on laptop, make coffee and have breakfast. Once the clickety clack stopped, check email or something. If it was still clacking away, get ready to head to university and it would have to wait. While I had XP on that thing it did not leave the house unless I was planning to hit the library to write a paper or something that would take more than an hour. It was not worth it to go through the startup procedure between classes. I needed the charger wherever I took it because 20% was lost to either starting up or traveling while on.

[–] [email protected] 25 points 1 day ago (4 children)

The invention of ssds was not to speed up computers, but to allow us to have more unwanted stuff autostart.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 day ago

and to install 'mandatory' giant bloated updates faster...

and to reboot faster after crashes (which may or may not have been caused by the above updates)...

load more comments (3 replies)
[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 day ago

Oh definitely. Its shut down every day, has a dedicated dock in the home office, and I open it at 9am.

Thats when I get my coffee and snack. Its just surprising how much longer I can sit and sip before starting now.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

when i set up a new pc i warn the users moving from really old ones that their coffee-fetching and bagel toasting time is about to shrink to zero.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 1 day ago (1 children)

They will do this but then what option will they have left when they make it even more bloated and slow—since they now have this "extra room", as it were?

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 day ago

They'll move office straight into the window kernel.

load more comments
view more: ‹ prev next ›