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As a starting point, the burning of fossil fuels, and to a lesser extent deforestation and release of methane are responsible for the warming in recent decades: Graph of temperature as observed with significant warming, and simulated without added greenhouse gases and other anthropogentic changes, which shows no significant warming

How much each change to the atmosphere has warmed the world: IPCC AR6 Figure 2 - Thee bar charts: first chart: how much each gas has warmed the world.  About 1C of total warming.  Second chart:  about 1.5C of total warming from well-mixed greenhouse gases, offset by 0.4C of cooling from aerosols and negligible influence from changes to solar output, volcanoes, and internal variability.  Third chart: about 1.25C of warming from CO2, 0.5C from methane, and a bunch more in small quantities from other gases.  About 0.5C of cooling with large error bars from SO2.

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[–] [email protected] 13 points 3 days ago (3 children)

The good news is that global warming (I prefer to call it Anthropogenic Runaway Global Heating because of the acronym) is going to completely fuck us all anyway, to the extent that plastic in the environment isn't going to matter by comparison. At least oil turned into plastic and buried isn't oil turned into CO2.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 3 days ago (2 children)

But we still have microplastics in our brains, which does warrant some concern I think.

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[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 days ago

Hey, maybe all the plastic will lead to such significant fertility issues, populations will crater, and ARGH won't even matter anymore!

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[–] [email protected] 17 points 3 days ago

I wonder how much the oil industry subsidies are responsible for making recycled plastic more expensive than the new one...

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[–] [email protected] 21 points 3 days ago (2 children)

How to get politicians to change views:

Plastic causes ed and shrinkage

[–] [email protected] 7 points 3 days ago

They'll blame woman for being too slutty and fucking everyone BUT THEM.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Unfortunately they'll just claim not praying to god enough and the existence of trans people causes ED and shrinkage...

[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 days ago

Thats crazy we all know trans people do the opposite for that lot.

[–] [email protected] 29 points 3 days ago (4 children)

And this is how capitalism eats itself. Nothing can be done without a market incentive, including not suffocating our planet to death.

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[–] [email protected] 5 points 3 days ago

I really can't wrap my head around this... (https://www.cbsnews.com/sanfrancisco/news/project-earth-frugalpac-sustainable-wine-bottles-recycled-cardboard-central-california/)

The idea has absolutely no foresight. They want to "lower the carbon footprint" by putting less carbon in the atmosphere and polluting the future's soil and water even more.

[–] [email protected] 71 points 3 days ago (9 children)

Being an old man this really gets me. I love the internet and the way computers today but there is a whole lot that worked fine before plastics were so common. Almost nothing in the grocery store had plastic and everything was pretty much as convenient as nowadays. Sure you had to pay a deposit on the glass bottles but you got it back when you returned them.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 3 days ago

That's still the way it works in Denmark, but with plastic bottles too. Something like 98% of all bottles are recycled.

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[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

The ~~only safe~~ safest way to dispose of plastic is to incinerate it...maybe it can replace some fossil powerplants...idk.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 days ago

That's not safe either. The best is to ban it.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 days ago

Hahahaha! .... oh

[–] [email protected] 33 points 3 days ago (2 children)

there have been several articles exposing plastic recycling as green washing. unfortunately they never make it to mainstream media

https://www.npr.org/2022/10/24/1131131088/recycling-plastic-is-practically-impossible-and-the-problem-is-getting-worse

i saw a chart somewhere showing less than 1% of plastic in use today is recycled but I can't find it now

[–] [email protected] 5 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

unfortunately they never make it to mainstream media

Sounds like this "mainstream media" is not doing its job. This might have some kinds of implications for the current state of affairs in the USA. Can't put my finger on exactly what though.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 3 days ago (2 children)

Sad that NPR is not considered "mainstream" these days. Maybe Joe Rogan will post something to Facebook about it?

[–] [email protected] 15 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)

NPR is definitely mainstream

I think the word you're looking for is "corporate" or "for-profit". Thats what they're not.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 days ago (3 children)

fwiw I agree, but it doesn't appear to be considered mainstream by the guy I was replying to.

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[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 days ago

Was it ever? It seems substantially more popular now than it used to be 20 years ago, with them getting in on the ground floor of the podcast game and all.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 days ago

If only some government somewhere on Earth had sponsored research on this. We could have known.

Or we did and no one cared.

Remember, if one depends on the media for information, you only get information dumb people can understand.

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