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Weren’t consoles supposed to be the cheaper, more convenient option?
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if anyone was looking for a good time to switch to PC, it's now. some stuff will be harder but you'll have steam sales and control over your own device (more than a console anyway, if your running windows you'll still have to put up with Microsoft).
Yeah, I've been an xnbox user since 360 but I don't think I'll stick with another console.
I've been looking at handheld PC`s....
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if your running windows you'll still have to put up with Microsoft
Luckily, there is another choice. Linux runs pretty smooth and has gotten much simpler to use over the years.
that's what I was implying I switched back in August
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There has always been an inherent value to consoles but if that goes away then I can genuinely see them dying off. Personally I thinks the current gen is a huge disappointment anyway and this news just makes it even more ridiculous.
I've always been a console peasant for the convenience of having a dedicated gaming device hooked up to the TV that uses a controller as well as the ability to trade in games when I'm done with them, not to mention consoles are cheaper than comparable PCs. I do have a decent PC, but I find I rarely play through entire games when I have to sit at a desk to do so. With digital games looking like the only game in town in the future and consoles being walled gardens with no other places to buy games for them, that cost advantage will be gone and it will be cheaper in the long run to pay more up front for a PC and get games for less. I got a Steam Deck recently, and it's been a great showcase for how a PC hooked up to the TV using only a controller can work. I had no idea Steam had such a robust system for remapping controllers and have been able to play games with them that would have been a huge hassle before.
If Sony does away with physical games like Nintendo is come the PS6, I'm definitely switching to PC gaming.
To be fair PC gaming is a whole different monster to deal with because of the extortionate prices of new hardware and extreme consumerism.
I just want to play games and not be a target for all these companies :/
Considering consoles no longer go down in price and are even getting price hikes, not to mention mid-gen refreshes like the PS4 and PS5 Pro, I'd argue they're no less susceptible to "extreme consumerism." PCs do require more effort and research to get what you want at a price that makes sense, that's true, but you don't have to have the latest bleeding edge tech for everything, especially if you're okay with running games at 1080p and 60fps like I am.
The lack of alternative places to buy games for consoles used to be mitigated by the second hand market. Without it, console games are just going to be too damn expensive for me, especially considering they're nothing more than data. There is no reason they should cost this much other than pure greed.
And you may ask yourself "my god! Where are the games?"
And the amount of money I spend on Xbox consoles, controllers, and games will be unchanged this year.
A 2TB Xbox Series X now costs more than a PS5 Pro (in the US at least).
That is mental. Xbox hardware division must be bleeding money hand over fist. I honestly doubt they'll do another generation, and stick to trying to monetise GamePass through PC and streaming. Maybe you'll even see GamePass for PS6 since they own so many studios now.
They'll only get Game Pass on PlayStation with Sony's blessing, which is unlikely. And the next Xbox will just be a PC. I don't think any of the consoles are in the market of selling units at a loss anymore. Those days are done. So with tariffs and inflation, this is the only way it could go.
EA Play is on PS5.
Assuming MS exit the console market, I don't see why Sony wouldn't allow it (as long as they get their pound of flesh from every sale of it). They'd basically just be another publisher.
The breadth of the Game Pass catalog is far larger, and Microsoft isn't exiting the console market, as much as they don't care about exclusivity. So personally, I doubt it, but I don't have a crystal ball.
Yeah, there's probably a fair bit of overlap between GamePass and PSN Premium games.
I suspect to try and push their own products, we'll be entering an age where games are $80, and almost never go on sale, purely to make their own subscription services seem better value. And then they'll crank the price of those as well.
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It's strange really. You can buy 4 extremely good indie games for the price of one game. And that's at a 20 each.
And with steam sales and sharing...valve is fun.
you dont own those games brotherman
Not ALL steam games have DRM. Yes, you should buy from GOG whenever you can, but if you use Linux like me, GOG doesn't give a shit. It can be hard to decide, support DRM free games and proper ownership with GOG, or expanding compatibility with Linux and improve it in general. If its cheaper on steam cause of a sale or something, I'll buy on steam, then years later like with DOOM 2016 for example, I'll buy it when it hits like 4 bucks on gog. That way, I have acces to an offline installer, and I show support and interest to valve for investing in proton.
Another option is to buy through Heroic Games Launcher. Heroic gets a cut, and GOG sees what they'd have to do to earn your entire dollar.
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Trying to raise the "standard" price to $80 will have very nice ripple effects of more pricing diversity, where each game will really consider what it's actually worth, which we haven't had for a long time. Even now we're getting first-party Microsoft titles releasing at $20, $30, and $50.
How much is Factorio worth though, everything?
The amount of time I've put in it could have cost me $200 and it would still be one of the best $/hr games I have
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Steam doesn't advertise at the scale of Microsoft, Sony, and Nintendo. It won't have a ripple effect because it won't change the degree to which artificial hype drives people towards the "Buy" button.
Steam doesn't need to. It's got the steam sale and a hundred million people to share memes of "sale so good spent all my money no time to play all the games I bought in such massive sale"
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A lot of games priced at $70 right now are having a rough go of it, so charging more on top of that isn't going to help, but there are the likes of South of Midnight and Clair Obscur launching at $50. If your game isn't as hot of a commodity as Mario Kart, you're probably going to try to lure people in with a lower price.
there are the likes of South of Midnight and Clair Obscur launching at $50.
Beautiful games, both. But again, they aren't having the full court press of advertising like a new Call of Duty or Final Fantasy or Diablo would.
That's the real cost savings. You don't need to change $80+ for a game if you aren't focused entirely on presale figures to justify your studio's budget.
Incidentally, you also get to focus on a better game. Balatro didn't need wall to wall subway ads in New York to end up on everyone's phones.
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Well, that settles it. $80 games is going to be the new standard and Sony will quickly trail along. Oh well, nothing much has changed for patient gamers.
$80 on release day. $60 a month later. $40 a year later. $20 a year after that.
What you're paying for isn't the game, its the hype. An enormous component of a modern AAA game's budget is just advertising. That's what your $80 is going towards. You're paying to have people tell you to buy it.
Even assuming you don't feel like pirating... Just be patient, play something that came out a few years ago, wait for the next Steam Sale, and own the game for pennies on the dollar.
An enormous component of anything is advertising, I don't see your point.
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Yeah, buy most games at half price or less, fully patched up and with all the DLCs. Such a joy!
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Thank you Microsoft, for taking pressure off Nintendo. 😛
The difference is: Microsoft and Sony 1st party titles go on sale and eventually come down in price over time.
Nintendo first party titles are always full price, even for 5 year old games.
The discounts usually aren't too steep, but games do go on sale periodically. DekuDeals is a fantastic resource for price tracking.
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Yup. The reality, while shitty, Microsoft still publishes games on multiple platforms (2 at minimum - PC and xbox). On PC, the games are sold on multiple storefronts with varying discounts and sales. Oblivion remastered just launched with a 17% discount on another store on PC for example.
Nintendo has a complete monopoly on the platform they publish for and completely control the prices.
For me, all these price increases are doing is moving me more towards PC. And to a larger degree off AAA titles all together.
Every game that has a physical release (and even some that don't) does get sold by other retailers, and those retailers do regularly have sales.
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Game Pass pricing currently unchanged.
That is because the job of Game Pass isn't to make money, it is to funnel customers into subscription services and destroy the idea that people buy games from artists.
Game Pass either succeeds and destroys the gaming industry like spotify did to music or Microsoft will abandon Game Pass.
Yeah, subscriptions are trash. Will be glad to see it go when it finally does.
They've already plateaued and basically admitted to it. It's a large revenue stream that's not as large as they thought it would be, so now they're going to coast with it and rely on just being a massive publisher instead.
Correction: It is to make money, but the goal is to get people to subscribe now then jack up the prices once people start relying on it.
It's a long con.
it’s bog standard capitalist formula. always has been.
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