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  • In December, an investigation by Tom's Hardware found that Recall frequently captured sensitive information in its screenshots, including credit card numbers and Social Security numbers — even though its "filter sensitive information" setting was supposed to prevent that from happening.
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[–] [email protected] -2 points 2 hours ago* (last edited 1 hour ago) (2 children)

I don't understand why Lemmy is so obsessed with Recall. It currently only works if you have an ARM CPU with an NPU. Nearly every Windows user is on an x86-64 chip.

Yes I agree that it shouldn't exist in Windows at all, but everyone is complaining about a feature that less than 1% of users even have access to; the amount of people who opt into using is going to be even smaller.

Stop obsessing over it so much and find something different to hate on Microsoft over. God knows there's plenty of other reasons to dislike them. Seriously, it's so annoying. I'm about to set a filter for the word "recall".

[–] [email protected] 2 points 45 minutes ago

First they came for the ARM CPU users type mentality

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 hour ago* (last edited 1 hour ago) (1 children)

It only works if you have an ARM CPU with an NPU.

No, it works on x86-64 assuming the device has a sufficient NPU. Both AMD and Intel CPUs latest CPUs list the Recall preview as available now.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 hour ago

And how many people have the latest CPU? Most Lemmy users don't even have an HDR monitor—tech that's been mainstream for over a decade at this point—let alone the latest and greatest processor.

[–] [email protected] -5 points 6 hours ago (3 children)

everywhere is copying your private messages. Google, facebook, microsoft, reddit, your phone texts, anything you've ever posted anywhere. This isn't news

[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

The general public isn't fully aware of the negative implications of it yet. That means it is news.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 hours ago

Sure they are, they will just say they don't care

[–] [email protected] 5 points 4 hours ago

So we should be okay with it? What's your point?

[–] [email protected] 6 points 5 hours ago
[–] [email protected] 42 points 10 hours ago

This is top tier comedy: Microsoft won the PC war to be benevolent and give it to Linux. How kind of them to shoot themselves in the foot for the good of mankind.

[–] [email protected] 59 points 12 hours ago (2 children)

How is this possibly going to be tolerated in business environments?

[–] [email protected] 5 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

My company is still on Windows 10 LT or whatever.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 9 hours ago

So, pay more it is.

[–] [email protected] 29 points 12 hours ago (2 children)

They pay more for it not being switched on... Or it doesn't call out to home

[–] [email protected] 7 points 3 hours ago

"pay us money to not do something" sounds like some mob shit

[–] [email protected] 8 points 6 hours ago

I would guess my company absolutely wants it, but wants the I fo sent only to them.

In fact if they didn't already have something like this installed on our PCs I'd be floored.

[–] [email protected] 55 points 13 hours ago (5 children)

Just a tip: if you must use consumer editions of Windows regularly, consider adding an automatic provisioning tool like AME to your workflow.

The example above uses customizable “playbooks” to provision a system the way docker compose would a container image, so it can fill the role of a VM snapshot or PXE in non-virtualized local-only scenarios.

The most popular playbooks strip out AI components and services (there are many more than just Recall) but also disable all telemetry and cloud-based features, replace MS bloatware with preferred OSS, curtail a truckload of annoying Windows behaviors, setup more sensible group policies than the defaults, and so forth.

I have a few custom playbooks for recurring use cases so that, when one presents, I can spin up an instance quickly without the usual hassle and risk.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

consider adding an automatic provisioning tool like AME to your workflow.

The example above uses customizable “playbooks” to provision a system the way docker compose would a container image, so it can fill the role of a VM snapshot or PXE in non-virtualized local-only scenarios.

I know what most of these words mean individually

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 hours ago

Basically, a playbook is a set of instructions or baselines for how you want the system to look/be setup, and the provisioning tool will engage in however many tasks are required to configure the system to your specifications. I played around with something similar with PowerShell DSC, and its pretty cool to be able to eliminate config drift when it checks against the config and remediates any changes that weren't updated in the playbook.

[–] [email protected] -5 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

You for sure feels so good being this helpful. But TIN really don't understand SHT if you use so many Technical terms(TT)

But there's a solution in brackets I just presented, that's commonly accepted in academia if you still want to use TT like that

[–] [email protected] 5 points 4 hours ago* (last edited 3 hours ago)

Forgive me for not explaining better. Here are the terms potentially needing explanation.

  • Provisioning in this case is initial system setup, the kind of stuff you would do manually after a fresh install, but usually implies a regimented and repeatable process.
  • Docker lets you run software inside “containers” to isolate them from the rest of the environment, exposing only what they need to run, and Compose is a related tool for defining one or more of these containers, the resources they need, how they interact, etc. To my knowledge the only equivalent for Windows to date is Wine and its successors like Proton.
  • Virtual Machine (VM) snapshots are like a save state in a game, and are often used to reset a virtual machine to a particular known-working condition.
  • Preboot Execution Environment (PXE, aka ‘network boot’) is a network adapter feature that lets you boot a physical machine from a hosted network image rather than the usual installation on locally attached storage. It’s probably tucked away in your BIOS settings, but many computers have the feature since it’s a common requirement in commercial deployments. As with the VM snapshot described above, a PXE image is typically a known-working state that resets on each boot.
  • Non-virtualized means not using hardware virtualization, and I meant specifically not running inside a virtual machine.
  • Local-only means without a network or just not booting from a network-hosted image.
  • Telemetry refers to the data harvesting apparatus. Most software has it. Windows has a lot. Telemetry isn’t necessarily bad but it is easily abused by data-hungry corporations like MS, so disabling it is a precaution.
  • MS = Microsoft
  • OSS = Open Source Software
  • Group policies are administrative settings in Windows that control standards (for stuff like security, power management, licensing, software and file system access, etc.) for user groups on a machine or network. Most users stick with the defaults but you can edit these yourself for a greater degree of control.

Many of these concepts are IT-related, as are the use-cases I had in mind, but the software is simple to use if you pick one of the premade playbooks. (The AtlasOS playbook is popular among gamers, for example.)

Edit: added docker

[–] [email protected] -2 points 10 hours ago

/give lemmy_gold

[–] [email protected] 4 points 12 hours ago

This is really interesting! I’ve usually installed Winaero Tweaker back when I still used Windows, if I knew this existed I probably would’ve gone with this instead. Having access to “playbooks” would be quite handy.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 13 hours ago

This looks like useful stuff; thanks for sharing. I'm not on Windows myself any more, but this looks like info with passing on to those in my life who are.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 13 hours ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 10 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

to vast majority of people this is unthinkable. They will also likely just not even notice news like this because they dont pay attention to such things and likely dont even care about their personal info until something bad happens to them because of that.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 10 hours ago

Stealing this info and posting it publicly is an important way to fight back. Once prole hear their credit card is being defrauded because of recall it will be untenable for it to stay

[–] [email protected] 68 points 14 hours ago

Well at least there are all kinds of checks and balances to prevent big tech and the US Government from abusing this information, right? Thank goodness we have no reason to worry about it being used for political surveillance and identifying who to send to foreign concentration camps, or anything like that.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 14 hours ago

Makes sense why they want this technology so much, one thing has really been achieved - in year 2005 you couldn't make a program that would be a keylogger and a useful thing all in one, so you had to make a keylogger somehow detect those rare events one can risk it running, or something like that. You couldn't instruct it in English "send me his private messages on sites like Facebook", you had to be specific and solve problems. Now you can. And these "AI"'s are usually one program with generic purpose. To stuff everything together with kinda useful things.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 15 hours ago

Moral blackmail and shaming will be the new industries of the future!

[–] [email protected] 68 points 15 hours ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 hour ago

This is the highest-quality, shocked Pikachu I've ever seen.

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