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[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 days ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 days ago

They didn't use to.

The problem is the studios have gotten lazy and risk adverse.

The reason why Endgame was so huge was because the studio took some risks and did the work to set everything up for that payoff.

There were movies in the first few phases that fell flat, like Thor 2, but even that movie pushed the plotlines forward.

Post Endgame, marvel hasn't really had a unified plan. They've also become so risk adverse that if any given movie underperforms, it kills the entire plotline.

Which leads to movies that don't have meaningful character growth, so who cares about those characters? Or those movies?

[–] [email protected] 14 points 2 days ago (1 children)

What movie is this even referencing? Almost every depiction of spiderman has him as a man of and for the people. Admittedly I haven't watched more recent marvel movies. Has that changed, somehow?

[–] [email protected] 11 points 2 days ago

No, nothing has changed. You could make the argument in the comic about Spider-Man's appearance in Captain America: Civil War, but nothing else.

Homecoming: Spider-Man is fighting criminals trying to steal hyper advanced technology to weaponize it and sell to other criminals.

Far From Home: Spider-Man is fighting a guy who is using advanced tech to stage destructive attacks with elaborate illusions in order to set himself up as a hero, despite the large amount of destruction and harm he's causing without care.

No Way Home: Spider-Man is trying to redeem and prevent from dying some inter-dimensional villains he inadvertently caused to be dragged into his universe.

Infinity War/Endgame: Spider-Man joins other heroes to fight a galactic tyrant with Malthusian ideas of population control, hell-bent on eliminating half of all life in the universe.

In none of these movies was he fighting for the government to maintain the status quo.

[–] [email protected] 29 points 3 days ago (2 children)

Ironically and not, that's exactly what Iron Man brought Nu-Spiderman to do in the CW movie. Government is crying about control, so a war profiteer recruits, illegally extricates from the country, arms and indoctrinates a kid to collaborate in a paramilitary action to oppress the following groups represented: war veterans, the elderly, women, foreigners, scientists, disabled, performance athletes, amputees and people seeking asylum.

Geez. Considering the previous movie was about a nazi takeover of the US, seems like someone shoud have seen things coming!

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 days ago (1 children)

In the comics he's originally on Iron Man's side of registration due to his personal guilt, but then he realizes what a bad idea it is and changes to Cap's side. But yeah in the MCU he's literally a child soldier who doesn't know what he's fighting for.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 days ago

, but then he realizes what a bad idea it is and changes to Cap’s side

No he doesn't; he just realizes that it personally inconveniences him because it gets his (only) moral tether killed, and decides to walk back that support to restore his own benefit, at the cost and harm of everyone else.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Don’t forget the paroled convict

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 days ago

True, how could I!

[–] [email protected] 18 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (4 children)

They made Spiderman rich in the movies because the writers a rich and think writing about a poor beneath them.

Other assholes include: Thor who is a dumb over privlaged fratboy who causes interndimentonal wars by acting like a dumb frat boy.

Ironman who was not only a war profiter who gave one the most powerful weapons platforms in the world to some teenager without any kind of oversight whose main story arc involves him fucking over poor people

Captain marvel is a brutal space pig who uses their powers to intimidate indigenous people on whatever planet she is on. Uses a weapon that can level city blocks and her character progression is that she needs to be more emotional. Plus she was fine committing genocide on the skrulls until she found out they had women.

Wakanda is a monarchist enthnostate presented as a utopia that tortures and murders outsiders and is presented in such a way that if it was the US the movie would be labeled as propaganda. Plus using 'colonizer' as a slur to call the people helping them even though they were never colonized

The eternals are boring

Wonda is everything that justifies the hate of mutants. But it's not her fault so she gets an pass. But it highlights everything stupid about the gay and minority parallel. No hates black or lbgtq people because they can think a hundred peope to death.

Almost all of these people are sone kind of aristocrat.

Black Widow spends all of her movie rescuing like 12 people while letting and entire gulag of men die in an avalanche without even flinching. Not to mention the fact that her and Hawkeye worked for the CIA and probably overthrow countless democracies.

The guardians of the galaxy employ a dangerous psychopathic racoon who thinks nothing of murder.

The least aggregous is Captain America, a living propaganda poster. Antman, one of the only poor person appearing in End Game is treated like a joke even though he should be the most dangerous one among them.

USAgent was treated like crap before he did anything wrong to the point I kind of felt bad for him

Getting rid of Zemos direct Nazi ties makes him almost a hero. And those ties are less then SHIELD's and less then that of most countries

Also, do not forget the beef between Disney and DeSantis only started when people saw they were working together. And only do scenes involving any kind of homosexuality in such away as to edit them out for whatever dictatorship they want to impress.

Also the original MCU Quicksilver was a thousand times better then yet another quipy hero that we don't need. Plus asshole Quicksilver is closer source material.

Edit: wtf am i getting down voted for?

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 days ago (1 children)

When did they make Spider-Man rich?

[–] [email protected] -1 points 2 days ago (1 children)

He got a lot of money from the arms dealer

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 days ago

From Stark? When?

We see him get a bunch of tech from Stark, but we never see him get money. Then, at the end of No Way Home he gives up literally everything, including his identity as Peter Parker, and is shown living in an extremely cheap apartment.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

Edit: wtf am i getting down voted for?

I can't imagine why a long-winded, dripping-with-cynicism, not-funny effort-post ridiculing and attacking the entire marvel universe and all the characters that some people might like, won't get you those precious, precious upvotes.

Truly, I have outgrown marvel, but this is the kind of brain-dead karma-whoring and social-brain-death that I don't miss on reddit. Not everyone thinks this deep about kid's movies or cares about upvotes.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Sure doesn't sound like you are over it.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Come on, you could have done better than that. I thought you were here for karma?

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

Not really, I was just wondering. But don't worry Disney will be alright

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 days ago

eternals wasn't just boring, it was built on the idea of "ancient aliens", which is horribly racist conspiracy theory that effectively claims that brown people cannot build cool shit. Pyramids? Aliens. Nazca Lines? Aliens. Nobody questions the Colosseum though.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 3 days ago

You must have found the eternals fan lmao

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