I believe him.
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Good. All the best to him.
Free this man. The wealthy psychopaths need something to be fearful of as it's the only emotional trigger that will keep their behavior from genociding the poor.
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He was halfway around the country eating ice cream with me.
At least he's wearing armor now.
Federal prosecutors claimed in their new filing that Mangione deserves the death penalty because of "the impact of the victim's death upon his family, friends and co-workers" and because "he expressed intent to target an entire industry and rally political and social opposition to that industry, by engaging in an act of lethal violence."
I just want to remind everyone of the impact of many of Thompson's murders on their family, friend, and co-workers, all in the service of the money masters' sheer, unadulterated, insatiable greed.
Also we literally only know his thoughts on the matter because they released excerpts of his journal. If he was trying to rally political and social opposition, you'd think he would have published a manifesto himself.
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Does the public have any information on the evidence they have that he did it? What I have read about all sounds like a weak case with what I suspect is a mountain of inadmissible evidence gathered by methods outside of laws that would apply to the non elite class.
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Who's that guy? Doesn't look like the guy they were searching for. At all.
Solidarity aside, whenever you are arraigned, any lawyer worth their salt will advise you to plead not guilty, because entering a guilty plea means it's over, move on to sentencing, where you have no leverage at all.
You can always change a not guilty plea to a guilty plea later, if a plea deal offered by the prosecution is acceptable to you. This is especially relevant in a case where the death penalty is on the table, but also applies to the possibility of reduced charges or penalties in any case.
I'll also add that this case could well end up with an Alford plea. In short, where the defendant asserts innocence, does not admit to the criminal act, but accepts the sentence because they believe that a jury would find them guilty based on the evidence. Again, this is definitely related to a case where the death penalty is on the table.
Because of this fact a lot of courts will just automatically enter a not guilty plea during your first appearance now.
I'd be very disappointed in any jury who found him guilty
Realistically they'll try arrange one that will. They're going to try secure a guilty verdict by any means necessary to make an example out of him.
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Having been on a jury,
People are dumb and have no empathy
~~Having been on a jury~~
People are dumb and have no empathy
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In federal Court the judge has a lot more control in the composition of the jury., they even lead voir dire.
They can pick a jury of all ceos if they want.
That would be a bold choice, and I don't think it would work out well overall. In terms of the public response. And imagine the security, it would be locked down harder than any place in the world.
Although in all seriousness, in a normal setting they might be challenged if they chose an all-CEO jury. You can't fill a jury with the potential target victims of the crime that is being accused. It would not be seen as fair by any stretch of the imagination.
If someone was a accused of targeting very tall men with pink hair, you couldn't fill the jury with people matching that description. Any sane person in the legal business would call them crazy.
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Ideally, a jury's responsibility is to weigh the evidence and find whether the evidence supports a guilty verdict beyond a reasonable doubt.
There has been no jury selection yet, let alone presentation of evidence. I would guess that any jury nullification would depend on a defense tactic of "Yes, my client committed this act, and his motive was to prevent UHC from directly causing the deaths of their customers by refusing to honor legitimate claims or by delaying payment of claims." There might be something there, especially since UHC changed its stance on something (I forget exactly what right now) in the wake of their CEO being killed.
But that would be a really difficult defense to mount. You'd basically be admitting to the act and hoping that at least one person on the jury would A) agree with your defense, and B) be willing to hold out over it, and C) not be replaced by an alternate for "failure to follow jury instructions" or some such thing.
Again, since a jury has not even been selected, I won't speculate on what evidence gets presented and what evidence (if any) ends up being excluded. By extension, I cannot agree with your above comment.
Please note that I am also not saying "He's guilty, he should hang", because that would also entail speculating on evidence.
They'll find 12 angry rich white women and its over for him. You know it, I know it. Dude martyrd himself from the beginning and I bet he knew it
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"The man who saves his country breaks no laws" isn't that right DoJ?
They don't have to say outright that the guy was scum and got what he deserved, just question why the federal charges are being brought while there's a state case and ask questions about how many other people would have a good reason to want this health insurance executive dead. You can introduce the message without abandoning all other defense and saying it explicitly.
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Yeah that tracks. He was walking my dough at the time.
He was walking my dough at the time
Is that a new way to make bread?
Mmmmm, barium bromide.
He's guilty of stealing my heart tho
Why, is he made of cheese?
Guilty of my cholesterol.
whatever he's made of id eat the shit out of him.
I mean, cheese is one thing. But if shit is your thing, who am I to judge.