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Love it. No connection to the internet except when you choose to, through your phone. Analog controls. Frickin roll up windows!
My only beef with the current concept is the bolt on body panels and other parts. Too easy to steal. Could replace those bolts with security bolts, if they aren't already, but that just discourages the casuals.
Can it tow?
Probably about as much as a Civic
Range is 150 miles so not holding my breath
I would still like one, but I'd wish it had the utility of a kei truck at least.
I pulled a U-Haul trailer with my Civic from Virginia to Oregon. Only took 2½ days, though the final few hours were harrowing. Maps back then didn't so much express topography, so the trailer was actually pushing me down ... I likely went through a year of brake pads in six hours.
Dope. I wonder if there's a way to customise it into a sedan. I can speak less to the mechanical aspects of having a super-bespoke super-integrated manufacturing process, but I'm confident the electronics part needs to go back to basics like this.
I found the specs a bit interesting. 52.7 kWh battery and a curb weight of 3,600 lbs is nearly identical to the Chevy Bolt, but this only has a range of 150 miles instead of 240. Is it really that much less efficient? The only thing I can think of is the aerodynamics, but that's a 40% difference.
As I understand it, the aerodynamics can be no joke on EVs. The acceleration is very efficient, there's very efficient regenerative braking, and an object in motion just continues in motion until there's a force. That means drag is pretty much where your whole battery charge goes. (I'm not sure how much tire flexing accounts for exactly)
For an example off the top of my head, the Arrow concept car manages 500km by not having side mirrors. Compare that to an ICE engine which wastes most of the fuel energy as heat, but to a widely varying degree depending on design and implemented energy recovery features.
Want.
No paint because you're injection molding body panels? Sounds good.
No stamping? How are you getting away with that? Are they just outsourcing the stamping for frame parts? There's no way this thing doesn't require stamped frame components.
Tbh, this feels like vaporware. I'll believe it when I see them actually being delivered.
Are truck chassis usually stamped? I had assumed they were made from cast components.
Frame rails are usually stamped. Although low volume sometimes will brake press them.
My first thought as well. Feeding on the anti-Tesla hype to gain some clout and probably funding.
How big a trailer can it tow, and how big of an optional battery can I get? Those are my two questions.
My two immediate concerns would be whether it comes with AC and is there an AWD option. Both of those could be deal breakers towards the borders. I guess they're not absolute deal breakers (we bounced around AZ in a '71 Datsun pickup that had about the same specs as this a kid) but they certainly would be huge QOL improvements as options.
Growing up in Phoenix, the national ads in the '80s that breathlessly noted "comes with air conditioning" was like ... how could you sell a car that doesn't have that?
Yeah, I'm still in AZ, thus my question, haha.
It has AC and only RWD.
Ah, cool! Well AC pretty much solves my hesitations here in AZ, lol. But I know a lot of northern states still might want AWD as an option.
I'm very meh on the AWD as someone in the north. Not needed, but a/c is definitely helpful!
Saying they are cutting the EV incentive is just another form of market manipulation.
They want people to panic buy, just like they did with cell phones, just like the stock market. It's all manipulation.
USA offering this trash b/c they still can't compete with BYD.
A basic usable truck sounds good to me, but the price seems high for bare bones and the range seems equally bare bones.
I don't know how the purchasing power differs across the pond but converting dollarydoos to pounds that sounds like a bargain for a new functional EV
I guess but I saw a used Volt on sale for under $4,000 and this is from a brand I've never heard of.
Time will tell if it's a good price or not I suppose, if it's a really solid truck then I guess it's close enough to a fair price.
Volt or Bolt? Volt is a hybrid.
If Bolt, I'm guessing that was a very old one that will get like 50km of range.
Probably the Bolt? I think it was closer to 60 or 70 but yeah, it was definitely an older one.
No paint? Sure. No touchscreen? Good.
..No radio? That's going to absolutely murder their sales.
Quite possibly. They're gambling on a market for a no-frills car existing, but it might just be too small. That's what killed economy cars the first time.
Many will consider this a cost-cutting step too far, but the interior was designed for ease of upgrading, with easy mounting space for anything from a simple soundbar to a full sound system.
This isn’t for everyone, but if it’s easily accessible, I’d have no problem installing a basic CarPlay head unit and speakers in an afternoon.
If they are targeting work trucks - which is where most bare bones trucks go - the buyers already have a bluetooth radio they use all day.
I think it will depend on if they have lots of USB power conveniently available. Like you could literally make your own stereo with two bluetooth speakers and a phone as long as there's plenty of USB power and mounting points.
You know what, people can just add their own bluetooth speaker.
I think it's fine.
That design also enables a low-cost approach to manufacturing that has caught the eye of major investors, reportedly including Jeff Bezos. It's been engineered and will be manufactured in America, but is this extreme simplification too much for American consumers?
I'm more worried about the cheapness and corner cutting.
This looks like something right up my alley! I was a bit deflated when I read that Jeff Bezos is involved though..
Would definitely buy one of these. I miss having a truck, but I only need one occasionally for the occasional need to haul something that won't fit in my car (e.g. Lowe's trips). I also really dislike the "smartphone on wheels" aspect of pretty much all current EVs.
Plus, I hate the infotainment systems so I would be happy to roll my own.
Though I do wonder if it has a backup camera/screen. Aren't those required nowadays?
According to the articles I read about it, the gauges are a digital screen which changes to the backup camara when in reverse.
Good to know. Will have to read up, though from the little I've read, it sounds like this is just a concept for now.
Touchscreens are the worst interface in a vehicle. But yes, Amercian law says all automobiles must have a backup camera installed as of 2018. I need and use a truck but I do just fine with a smaller Tacoma, which these days are basically a full size truck of yester-yore. These look nice, like the UTE style; but the 150 mile range would be an issue for me.
I think there is an option to upgrade the battery to have a 240mi range
That's what I thought (re: backup cameras), and someone else mentioned the gauge cluster is a digital screen which switches to the backup camera view). In my case, 150 miles (round trip ) would be just around the upper edge of my use cases, though 15-20 would be more average.
which these days are basically a full size truck of yester-yore
Makes me miss my old 2003 Ranger. It was right where I needed a truck to be, size-wise.
I really like this concept. Definitely catches my attention. But I think minimalists are in the minority these days.
What would you prefer, this for $20k, or a 6 year old truck with 50k miles and all the features for $20k? Most cheap people prefer the latter
I don't disagree about what most people want. Personally, I don't really care for the features, so I'm an outlier. The one thing I do miss on my 25-year-old Saturn is cruise control.
Plastic panels are awesome, BTW. 25 years and zero door dings.