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Automakers and tech developers testing and deploying self-driving and advanced driver assistance features will no longer have to report as much detailed, public crash information to the federal government, according to a new framework released today by the US Department of Transportation.

https://archive.ph/wWwjG

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[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 week ago

It'll only benefit Tesla if anyone buys their shoddy cars.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 2 weeks ago

It won't help Tesla one wit. They are going to collapse.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Roadrunner cartoon style murals everywhere it is, then.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 week ago

I have absolutely no problem with self-driving vehicles and I'm fully prepared to accept that it is a possibility in the near future. However I am also utterly confident that it won't be Tesla that finally cracks it, and I am sure that they will still call it "full self driving" even in a future where we have actual full self driving.

The law really needs to be laid down on this stuff, unless it can actually drive itself without a human even in the vehicle, and do so reliably, then they're not allowed to call it anything that implies that capability.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 10 points 2 weeks ago

In a delightful change of pace, the Nazis are putting themselves in the oven.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 2 weeks ago

Owning a tesler is embarrassing. Even in my deep red trump loving state, most people would never buy one.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 2 weeks ago

Shocking…

[–] [email protected] 12 points 2 weeks ago
[–] [email protected] 21 points 2 weeks ago

Great news for them in one country I guess!

[–] [email protected] 14 points 2 weeks ago

Wow such boon

[–] [email protected] 30 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

Serious question: If I get hit by one of these death machines, who can I (or my next-of-kin) sue? Has that been established in court?

[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 weeks ago

Serious answer: the owner of the vehicle is responsible for it. You sue the owner, their insurance, possibly your insurance, possibly tesla, possibly nobody. The best result is to walk away avoiding court with more money.

[–] [email protected] 40 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

In a Musk-approved world:

  • You're hit by a Tesla in FSD mode, the driver gets sued for not driving.
  • You're hit by a fully autonomous Tesla taxi, you get sued for vandalism.
  • You're the driver and FSD hit someone, you get sued.
  • You're the owner and the car hits someone while you're not in it, you get sued for owning it.
  • You're the owner and it catches fire with you inside, you(r estate) gets sued for "not maintaining it".
[–] [email protected] 9 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

In all cases, the warranty on the Tesla in question is immediately voided. And the odometer starts running 15% faster with every major incident.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 2 weeks ago

The boon here isn't that it'll allow them to bring a shoddy product to market. The boon is they'll be able to continue milking investors by hiding the fact that they have no marketable product in this space while they keep selling off their stock.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (2 children)

I wonder if the author realizes there are other companies making "self-driving" vehicles.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

So you're saying that a corrupt man in power uses that power to benefit himself at the expense of the public, but it's not corruption, because additional parties also happen to benefit?

i must be misunderstanding

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Please point at where I said it was not corruption.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

of course you didnt. that's why the misunderstanding comes in. I just wonder what you're implying with that comment... the interpretation i gave above is the first thing that comes to mind. like, so what if the author didn't consider that, what changes?

id be happy to hear a clarification!

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

I mean why microfocus on Tesla when this impacts the entire industry?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 weeks ago

Fair question! I'm not sure if there are any other industry figures holding major positions in the federal government but that would definitely be worth discussing if it isn't just Elon

[–] [email protected] 8 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

I'm sure that they're just as shitty and more concerned with profits than safety, just like Tesla. When you don't punish companies and ceo's like you would a homeless person, or teacher, or doctor, or police officer, or fireman, then they have no incentive to do anything other than profit at the expense of society.

[–] [email protected] 40 points 2 weeks ago (4 children)

All I can say is invest in 4k vehicle cameras. Get one facing one and one facing the rear. CYA for when these self-driving Teslas start crashing into everything.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

Your going to need a body cam. The car isn't too bad with others cars, it's people and bikes and motorcycles it has real problems with.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

I think the problem was they probably trained the AI on Americans driving normally i.e badly, Americans have zero lane discipline, every video I've ever seen of Americans driving is like an instructional video on how not to do it.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 2 weeks ago

give it a few months, and you won't be allowed to sue tesla any more. i'm fucking serious.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Got a recommendation? I'm in

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 weeks ago

I have a Rove camera I got a few years ago. I want to get a second one for the back (I guess they sell a dual kit now).

[–] [email protected] 26 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

and thus america became that much more like russia

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 weeks ago

At least we got some wild videos out of that I guess? Peak internet days.

[–] [email protected] 21 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Well that's convenient for the author maker / oligarch / unelected government squatter running the country. I guess every once in awhile things just turn up his way.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 weeks ago

the neat thing about oligarchs is the betting odds that they'll keep their heads

[–] [email protected] 130 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

This would be REALLY Corrupt if Elon Musk had donated a QUARTER BILLION DOLLARS TO TRUMP and then was Given a Government Oversight Position! FORTUNATELY Fox News told me that DIDNT happen!

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 weeks ago

The all caps get me every time. Just take your damn upvote.

[–] [email protected] 35 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

ICE! ICE! LOOK AT THIS GUY! HE'S CLEARLY ANTI-AMERICAN AND UN-PATRIOTIC!

the clock is ticking before comments like this actually become serious.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 weeks ago

Hammer time

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