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Fuck the stupid morons who defend Apple.

Imagine if Microsoft banned Windows users from installing the software they want on their computer.

Imagine if Microsoft required all software developers to give them 30% of their earning or Microsoft will ban them from Windows

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[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 week ago

$568m is a day Apple will never get back!

[–] [email protected] 17 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (2 children)

Imagine if Microsoft required all software developers to give them 30% of their earning

https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/apps/publish/publish-your-app/why-distribute-through-store

Flexible revenue sharing options that let developers choose their own commerce platform and keep 100% of the revenue for non-gaming apps, or use Microsoft’s commerce platform and pay a competitive fee of 15% for apps and 12% for games.

I guess their rates are lower. Currently.

EDIT: And as @[email protected] points out, that's for Windows, not the XBox. For the XBox, they do run an exclusive store and apparently do 30% there as well.

continues using Linux

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[–] [email protected] 49 points 1 week ago (39 children)

Hating on Apple for their 30% cut is popular.

Hating on Google for their 30% cut is popular.

Hating on Microfot, Sony, and Nintendo for their cuts is popular.

But somehow hating on Steam for their 30% cut is going too far.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 week ago

I hate it 🙂

[–] [email protected] 17 points 1 week ago (8 children)

Steam gets a pass because they actually offer buyer protection, refunds if it doesn’t work, refunds under certain requirements which can be waved under certain circumstances, removal of day one season passes, refunds for dlc that gets delayed too long for example.

If an actual competitor gave a shit about things that matter to actual players than they have a shot. Epic Game Store is a joke because no one wants a store that only focuses on what corporations want. GOG is good but just doesn’t market itself well, seriously outside of launching CDPR games I don’t see it at all.

Getting companies to offer their games on platforms that offer a higher margin is easy. Getting players over to a platform that offers less protections and features is not going to happen.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 week ago

GOG is good but just doesn’t market itself well

GOG's biggest problem is also their greatest asset: no DRM.

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[–] [email protected] 32 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Steam isn’t a monopoly.

The PC is an open platform, you can use any game store or launcher you want - unlike the iPhone, Android (without sideloading), PlayStation, switch, or Xbox.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 week ago (1 children)

My Samsung phone comes with an alternative android app store pre-installed.

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[–] [email protected] 102 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (4 children)

Perhaps that's because Steam doesn't seem to be trying very hard to "lock in" developers to their platform. Devs are free to sell their PC games on Gog or Epic or whatever. Steam is popular because it's a good platform. This freedom for developers or customers mostly does not exist on mobile or on consoles, except for the EUs efforts here.

Even their "console" the Steam Deck can, relatively easily, run games from other stores. I'm not saying a 30% cut should be considered fair but they do seem to take a different approach to digital sales than the other large players.

[–] [email protected] -4 points 1 week ago (4 children)

You could say the same about Google.

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[–] [email protected] 54 points 1 week ago (4 children)

Yeah it’s arguable that Steam is a monopoly but somehow billion dollar publishers can’t create a store to sell their own products without fucking it up with annoying bullshit. Pay the 30% to protect you from yourselves.

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[–] [email protected] 26 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Microsoft, Apple, Exxon, Meta, Amazon, JP Morgan or Saudi Aramco are the most powerful corporations in the world. They are empires more powerful than many nations. Their CEOs always travel with armed men. They have the personal phone number of Donald Trump and Xi Jinping.

It's healthy to scrutinize them. Steam is a problem, but Valve is nowhere near as powerful.

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[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 week ago (4 children)

Microsoft does with their Xbox, though. Don’t they?

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[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 week ago

Tim Apple to Trump

You know what to do, papito....

[–] [email protected] 28 points 1 week ago (11 children)

except only loosing 568m is just "the price of doing business" for them and it's not much of a deterrent to make them stop. they made more than that by doing this so it's still a net profit

[–] [email protected] 20 points 1 week ago (2 children)

While true, 568m is a significant cost of doing business. Also remember that a punitive action should not make the company go bankrupt, it should make them rethink.

And if they don't, the fines will go higher, until they do rethink.

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