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YouTube is no longer showing recommended videos to users logged out of a Google account or using Incognito mode, making people concerned they are being bullied into always being signed into the service.

This change, which is now rolling out, shows a simple YouTube homepage without any videos or tips on what to watch.

As noted by some on X, users who have cleaned their search and watch history or turned off their history settings also see no suggestions when they're logged in. Some people think YouTube is being pushy about this, trying to make users turn on their history settings.

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[–] [email protected] 1 points 6 months ago

making people concerned they are being bullied into always being signed into the service

So, the majority WANTS to see the political propaganda, endless livestream of chill music to relax and study to, a bunch of spoiled kids making faces, and something indistinguishably small being pointed at by a huge red arrow?

[–] [email protected] 5 points 6 months ago

they also dont recommend anything on your homepage when you're signed in if you don't have your watch history turned on (as if they're not tracking it anyway)

lol, who cares

[–] [email protected] 3 points 6 months ago

Service to humanity.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 6 months ago

I noticed this a few days ago or so and I was delighted by it. I never sign in to YouTube and hated the garbage recommendations on the homepage.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 6 months ago
[–] [email protected] 6 points 6 months ago

This is more of a feature than a problem IMO.

Most services (like meta/Facebook/Instagram/anything owned by zuck', the service formerly known as Twitter....) are going to a model of: you need an account to even see anything posted publicly.

Not just extremely limited information like LinkedIn, like, instant redirect to "you need to be logged in to see this" or simply a login page.

At least you can still find something you want to see, and go and watch it... With ads and everything, sure, but the information is there and accessible.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 6 months ago

That's fine, all the videos they suggest suck anyway. No I don't want to watch Madonna's Like a Virgin video when I've been watching Letterkenny clips, YouTube.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 6 months ago

Is that a problem?? I mean I leave myself logged in all the time because I use google music and I absolutely hate their recommended videos and the algorithms behind it.

No fucking google I don't want to watch some douche canoe movie reviewer complaining about the latest movie being woke just because I watched some other movie critic that's actually thoughtful and insightful or at least funny to me without delving into sounding like a dog with the constant "woke...woke woke...woke woke woke woke".

[–] [email protected] 57 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (2 children)

This is amazing. I saw YouTube only showing a search bar when I went there, and it was liberating. I could search and watch the video on the topic I wanted, then promptly leave. Without all the Hot and recommend shit being shoved down my throat.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 6 months ago

Exactly! I love this new feature :)

[–] [email protected] -5 points 6 months ago (1 children)

You know you can always just search for stuff without checking the recommended section right? Its helpful to discover new channels though

[–] [email protected] 11 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Except the algorithm has been horrible for, like..., five years maybe?

[–] [email protected] 7 points 6 months ago

yeah. Its constantly trying to force right wing bullshit down my throat, because like once a month I'll watch a video about heavy machinery or camping or something.

[–] [email protected] 30 points 6 months ago (1 children)

YouTube without suggestions? You mean how it was back in the early days?? I would LOVE that.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 6 months ago

You can use the Unhook extension to do this right now on at least Firefox and Chrome.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Wouldn't the recommendations be crap anyway? When they don't know your watch history?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 6 months ago

I was logged out the other day without realizing and for the first time I saw Mr. Beast and other similar content being recommended

[–] [email protected] 11 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Their algorithm sucks. I don't want to see a how-to video I saw 12 years ago. It's there nothing else on the internet?!?!

[–] [email protected] 1 points 6 months ago (1 children)

I see a lot of recommendations for videos from channels I watch that are very old and I've seen them before. I frequently submit feedback that I've seen it and I don't want to rewatch something I've seen before (unless I'm specifically searching for it).

Also, if I jump into my history feed, and go back as far as I can, I eventually hit the end, and I know I've watched more than wherever the end is. So the history falls off eventually. Frustrating.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 6 months ago

I too also submit feedback to say that I have seen these videos before. I have even had a video auto play the same video I just watch prior to the one I'm watching. Honestly, what are they doing?

[–] [email protected] 4 points 6 months ago

YouTube definitely not bullying users into staying signed it so that Google can aggregate more data about you /s

[–] [email protected] 13 points 6 months ago (1 children)

I moved to a newpipe fork about a year ago. I stopped using their suggestions altogether. I'm not going to lie it was a couple of months before I was able to get used to it. I've come to believe that having YouTube on permanent autoplay based on their algorithmic calculations of what I'd want to see is not entirely healthy for me.

At current, once I've watched everything from my chosen creators for the day. That's it I'm done, I go and find something more useful to do.

Now I see only the shows from my chosen creators,and if one of those guys recommends a different creator that they enjoy I'll usually throw a follow in that direction. Very organic very much not in someone's pocket. I've avoided TikTok like the plague. I think that, as much as possible, no companies financial statement should have a serious impact over my content consumption.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 6 months ago (1 children)

which fork of new pipe are you using? I'd be interested to hear your take on it.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 6 months ago

Tubular, it's The same as new pipe plus sponsor block but it's currently active.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 6 months ago

You search for one thing and it starts showing recommendations.

I fail to see how this is a bad thing. Youtube's old default homepage would show scam and content mill recommendations.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Recommending things when you're not logged in means they're tracking you without your consent. Why would anyone want that?

[–] [email protected] 13 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (1 children)

No they usually recommend what is trending to users who are not logged in or have no watch history

That said i personally really don't mind the change

I've started using Invidious as a YouTube front end and it works really great for me

https://invidious.io/

[–] [email protected] 0 points 6 months ago

Oh, I interpreted "recommended" as recommended as in tailored to your preferences. What they mean is that youtube won't show popular videos anymore. Still, doesn't seem like the wrong choice to me necessarily, but I'm personally not interested in the type of videos that have the highest popularity.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 6 months ago (2 children)

I never watch YouTube while logged in if I can help it, and I've never subscribed to a channel either. I've just bookmarked the /videos page of the channels I like, and check them regularly.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

As someone who subscribes to many channels, likely over 100, that post anywhere from daily to a few times per year, fuck that.

You should also consider using Grayjay or something instead to avoid that tedium.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 6 months ago (1 children)

You might like New Pipe/Tubular! Give it a go

[–] [email protected] 5 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Yes, I was like OP for years, but since I switched to NewPipe I also get to experience beeing subbed to chanels and just getting Infos about new Videos.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (1 children)

If you're interested in sponsorblock integration and a return of the dislike button, have a look at Tubular, it's a fork of NewPipe

[–] [email protected] 2 points 6 months ago

Thanks, that's awesome.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 6 months ago (1 children)

I have never signed in to use YouTube

[–] [email protected] 4 points 6 months ago

Congratulations?

[–] [email protected] 25 points 6 months ago (2 children)

This is too good to be true. How long until Google reverses this decision? 😂

[–] [email protected] 1 points 6 months ago

In EU the next time the law changes 😁

[–] [email protected] 13 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

They change their mind about 100 things bi-weekly. I'm frankly numb to it. I never know what's going on, just keep riding the unpredictable rollercoaster.

like remember a few weeks ago for one day YouTube had an option to choose from recommended videos based on our favorite color scheme? So weird & pointless but i chose Blue lavender then They presented me with a bunch of videos with a blue lavender-ish thumbnail, and I chose one to watch, then everything went back to normal and they never gave me the colors option again.

[–] [email protected] 39 points 6 months ago

Honestly, so glad they are making this change. Now I don't have to see the bottom of the barrel popular slop every time I use the incognito mode thing on Revanced.

[–] [email protected] 24 points 6 months ago

Love it!

I hate the recommended screen, I just use an extension called unhook: hide YouTube recommended, but now I find out they're doing it as the default? That's sick

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