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[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 day ago (2 children)

In terms of civilization, then yes, but humanity live much longer than agriculture.

The best that civilization had to offer is definitely better than hunter gatherer lifestyle.

But also:

The worse that civilization had to offer is definitely worse than hunter gatherer lifestyle.

So it all depends what part of civilization you’re talking about, even though on average it’s better.

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[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 day ago

See, I just want what I consider to be the good parts brought forward, not going backwards

Since, obviously, I know best for everyone, everywhere, you can rest assured that I will only reinstate the cool shit that you will also love. No, you'll love it. Whether you want to or not

[–] [email protected] 50 points 1 day ago (6 children)

Just about every time period sucks

The only time period that was enjoyable was only enjoyed by a small portion of the global population at any one time

Many people on this thread like to point out the 80s, 90s or early 2000s were great ... it is true for only about maybe 10% of the global population ... the rest were living with developing nations with very little and everyone still struggling like they always had

The world has always been the same throughout history ... I'm guessing about 70% of the population lived just enough to get by ... 29% lived with absolutely nothing ... and 1% lived with everything

And it's still the same today.

[–] [email protected] 33 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

as someone from a developing nation, the good ol days were good because i was a kid.

i think thats the theme here.

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[–] [email protected] 32 points 1 day ago (1 children)

This works on longer scales, but I have to be honest with you, I don't know if me looking back at the late 90s and going "yeah, that went wrong at some point" is just my generation's version of being nostalgic for a time where you were oblivious to the crappy stuff or a fairly objective assessment of modern world trends.

I DID grow up in what amounted to a developing nation, several of my neighbors couldn't read or write and I didn't have a telephone or a VCR until well into the nineties, but also... you know, the post 9-11 period doesn't seem like a particular uptrend for civilization, in hindsight.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 1 day ago (1 children)

The Matrix had it right.

1999, turn of the millenium.

Zenith of human society, all downhill from there.

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[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I’d be fine with going back to a time before the heritage foundation and reganomics

[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 day ago

That would be moving to a more racist time also with bad economic policy?

[–] [email protected] 17 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

I had no significant outside world problems in the 90s and early 2000s.

You could get repair manuals and replacement parts for practically anything, and you could even get away with blowing up ant beds in your yard with improv devices.

Everything seemed to change after Hurricane Katrina though, like the flood waters wiped out all the ant beds I wanted to blow up.. 😢

[–] [email protected] 17 points 1 day ago

9/11 in 2001 change quite a bit.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 day ago (6 children)

Depends on when you are and when you want to return to. I’d be happy with anything between 1992-2000 ce

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Yeah, if I was an adult mid-2000s, that would be the best time, IMO.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 day ago

I specified 1992-2000 to avoid GWB and 9/11

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 day ago

A year or two before the Great Recession?

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