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[–] [email protected] 27 points 6 hours ago* (last edited 6 hours ago)

*In an opinion poll

I mean lets not confuse an opinion poll with the truth. These things regularly get things a couple points off. In fact that’s the norm.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 7 hours ago* (last edited 7 hours ago) (2 children)

And stil the state refuses to ban them, refuses to arrest and sentence their leaders.

It will be Weimar 2.0 with liberals being either too incompetent or too unwilling to stop fascism.

Fascism is not stopped at the podium or in parliament. It is stopped with bullets and bombs. The longer you wait the more bullets and bombs it will take and the more lives it will cost. We need a new, this time thorough, denazification.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 7 hours ago* (last edited 7 hours ago)

But starting and organizing a violent opposition seem like so much effort. And I really have to finish some shows I've been watching.

[–] [email protected] 29 points 8 hours ago

AfD is using fascist manipulation using propaganda (always putting immigrants and immigrant attacks in the spotlight) to gain power and discriminate immigrants even more, causing more retaliation which in turn makes people give the AfD even more power.

In a tolerant society we should not be tolerant of such intolerance.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

Germany should have actually denazified instead of the joke they did. Also should have reunited the two germanys instead of what happened which was basically a west German conquest of east Germany contributing greatly to its impoverershment.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 6 hours ago (3 children)

Honest question, what was wrong with the denazification that was carried out? Did they have any historical example to compare to?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 hours ago

The fact that it didn't happen? That a lot of the very few who got actual sentences (less than those who worked just at Auschwitz)were pardoned before their time was up. That all levels of the post war German government was filled with nazi party members. That it was quickly abandoned even in the limited and performative form it existed it to unite to fight "the communist threat". I don't need a historical example of a successful de radicalization in order to say this one didn't happen and its a myth it did.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 hours ago

Think about it like this: What do you do if everyone is at least complicit? While the soviets excluded the old elites from their new regime, the west focused more on reintegrating them. That being said, both sides were willing to turn a blind eye if you where qualified enough and needed for the continued function of society.

So for example the head of the neurological society was a doctor who experimented on brains of executed prisoners and children. And unfortunately this was the rule, not the exception.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 5 hours ago

Jeah wondering the same, like Germany was already doing a lot more compared to other countries with previous facist governments

[–] [email protected] 20 points 9 hours ago (3 children)

Someone explain, are these the Nazis?

[–] [email protected] 12 points 6 hours ago

It is the party all the fascists vote on.

Should tell you enough.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 7 hours ago

Anything from national conservatives to common reactionaries, VΓΆlkische and neo-nazis and neo-fascists.

[–] [email protected] 26 points 9 hours ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 13 points 9 hours ago
[–] [email protected] 12 points 10 hours ago (3 children)

Many of those aren't real votes but "protest" support. Very dumb imo. They're hoping its a wakeup to the other parties but it really just emboldens the afd.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

Nah I don't buy it. Nazis voting for nazis know what they are doing. AfDs plan is clear, like project 2025 was and their voters like what they see and should be treated and handled accordingly.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 7 hours ago

Okay well in German and I know some of these idiots. It's true. Of course some are literally Nazis. You see the same thing in the US as well. Don't take my reply as defending these people.

[–] [email protected] -2 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

Are they dumber than the parties that didn't get the message?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 7 hours ago

Can confirm they're generally quite dumb.

[–] [email protected] 40 points 10 hours ago

Please look at the US and what's happening here right now.

A significant portion of Trump's voters in 2016 were protest anti-establishment voters and they've been converted into full on Fascist voters in the 8 years since then.

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