Sadly, you are correct. Neither Kamala nor Gavin can win. But I'd prefer Kamala to Gavin, which is how bad Gavin is.
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The great thing about the orange turd- gurgler, is that he's so bad, even the bad democrats might be popular enough to elect in enough numbers to have the majority to get things done - if our republic survives.
My thinking is that we need the dems that we can get into office, then work on replacing them with better ones, as we go. The moderates definitely need to go away... enough with the "meeting in the center," when the center is always moving to the right.
The voters need to have realistic expectations as well - we've been in decline since the '70s - it won't be fixed in 4 or 8 years, but nothing is going to be fixed at all, so long as corporations and billionaires are in charge.
Trump is still popular. Dems are in an ouroboros of cope right now with no way out. They've basically been in charge for two decades and done nothing. If they want to get elected it will have to be on a populist platform without all of woke BS. (e.g. an anti-Trump version of Trump) Ironically Trump's campaign borrowed a ton of messaging from Bernie Sanders. No surprise that he won considering Democrats pushed Bernie and his grievances out of the way a decade ago in favor of perhaps the most well-connected, corporatist technocrat to ever run for President.
We all like AOC here on Lemmy, but are enough of the old ass "liberals" going to join us so she can actually get elected? Seems highly unlikely to be honest.
I'd love to see it happen though. That's what primaries are for. The Dems should try one of those. It's been a while.
Bernie and AOC seem to be hoovering up the MSNBC liberal boomer demographic at this point because that demo has finally snapped and the dems leadership is completely absent.
That, however, probably won't translate into a progressive/socialist candidate winning the next presidential primary. They might have a stronger showing but dem leadership will move to protect their donors and stifle that candidate.
Pelosi showed us already the Democratic party won't let aoc sniff a primary
I'm 45. Am I old enough to be an old ass liberal? I love AOC and I hope she succeeds.
I'm talking 70's, 80's, and up. I'm also in my 40s.
Aww shit 40s gang rise up!
AOC is a clear choice, I'd say Bernie but I'm already tired of old people in power.
AOC is young, in touch with actual issues, in touch with the generations that are moving the economy, knows the struggle since she used to be a waitress and so far I haven't seen her go crazy on anyone else's agenda or buying stocks and enriching herself beyond measure like damn old hag Pelosi.
Which is exactly why she wont be a presidential candidate ever.
Don't say ever, the democrats still need to win elections... (that is that there are still elections that mean anything...)
Can we do ranked choice primaries?
No.
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lmfao I agree that we need ranked choice voting, I just don’t think we’re going to see it anytime soon. It would be nice though.
The DNC would rather acquiesce power to Republicans than risk handing it to an anti-corporate candidate so... No.
That would solve a lot of problems, so ... no.
I haven't heard bad stuff about Gavin Newsom. Did he turn corporate when I wasn't paying attention?
For reference, he's getting chumy with Tuker Carlson of all people. Neo-libs gonna neo-lib.
- has a podcast where he fawns over conservative guests like Steve Bannon and Charlie Kirk
- borrowing talking points from Jordan Peterson about "bro culture" and a "crisis of masculinity"
- wants to "solve" California's housing crisis by jailing unhoused people
- thinks "social issues" like transgender rights and due process for immigrants are distractions from the real issues (like tariffs)
Newsom has generally been pivoting conservative over the last few years, most commenters think in preparation for a 2028 presidential run, and has turned it up since Trump was elected.
Wow. Last time I paid attention to him he was leading the push for gay marriage in California before SCOTUS legalized it. Then I remember him running for governor and I stopped hearing about him since I didn't live in Cali
He's been tilting rightward to accomodate the shift in the American public ya.