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Trump may soon offer a motherhood medal, an idea popularized in Nazi Germany
(www.motherjones.com)
Have you heard about the military parade on his birthday?
this post was submitted on 22 Apr 2025
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Meloni copying this (once more, as Italy has already done it many times, since the 1920s) in 3...2...
Ugh, we shouldn't condemn something for being something Nazis did. Hitler liked dogs, doesn't make it wrong.
I don't approve of natalism. Some natalists are driven by white-replacement cringe theory. Some are just inexplicably concerned about population decline. (I still don't understand why.)
Fuck this medal though. It's going to help make people think women are only good for one thing.
population decline is incredibly problematic… demographic crises can literally lead to the collapse of a society in a slow enough manner that it’s kinda difficult for people to see coming unless they know what to look for
i’d highly recommend the recent kurzgesagt video about south korea
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Offering a medal for baby making while erasing women's achievements in science and leadership is definitely sending a message.
...could he just skip to the part where he feeds himself a bullet just like daddy-Hitler, already?
Governments are always offering weird wacky incentives for women to have children, when the solution is usually patently obvious: you can increase fertility by making it easy and affordable to have children. Stipends for food, paid maternity/paternity leave, free childcare services, affordable housing, and a good economy with an abundance of high-paying jobs.
I mean... there's a reason the baby boom happened in the 50s! But no, that would be socialism!!
I think you're forgetting the marital rape, financial dependence on men, lack of choice, sexist culture and general helplessness and misery of women involved in creating the 'baby boom'.
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IIRC. the US is one in two countries in the entire world that does not offer paid maternity leave.
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That's how you create a society of responsible adults capable of critical thinking. They want a society of mindless workers used to hardship and deprivation of their rights.
Ehm, on paper I agree, but you've witnessed the generation that came out of the post WW2 baby boom, right?
What were they called?
Also the belief the future will be better and more abundant. People need that as possible parents being scared of the future are not having (more) children.
And the society we live in tells us money, expensive status symbols and varying experiences you can brag about are the most important things. Having many children stands in the way of that
Honestly, we need to reform our economic system and not continually rely on fertility to solve all of our problems.
I'll add that even those incentives probably won't help, as fertility declines are strongly associated with education levels and money (and women's liberation in particular). Give women options and unsurprisingly, some will choose not to have children.
Honestly, we need to reform our economic system and not continually rely on fertility to solve all of our problems.
Fertility and demographic collapse aren't about supporting an economic system. Even if we were a post-scarcity communist utopia women would need to average 2.1 children/woman to maintain the existing population (2.1 isn't growth, it's maintenance - if you wonder why it's slightly higher than the number of people involved with making new people it's because you also have to cover for infertility and mortality among those children) or the same population-level result would occur. The nasty thing about demographic collapse is that it's subtle until it isn't and by that point it's really hard to fix. There is no economic system where people don't need to make more people to have a stable population, at least not unless/until we achieve some kind of immortality.
Ultimately you have three options when it comes to the topic, and they all have downsides:
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Get your people to make more people. Downsides: Those new people aren't really contributing to society for a couple of decades, which means it's a long term fix for a problem that might be a big problem in a shorter term than that depending on where we're talking about. Also, there aren't a lot of ethical ways to do this, and the ones that are ethical aren't extremely effective.
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Import people from elsewhere. Downside: If you do this too quickly and/or without pushing for assimilation you will irrevocably change if not destroy your culture. This is why places like Japan and South Korea aren't allowing unlimited mass immigration from anywhere people are willing to come from despite being on the cusp of the "until it isn't" part of "subtle until it isn't."
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Do nothing, and hope it just fixes itself. Downside: This is essentially a death spiral for your people.
These fuckers will do anything to invent a flying machine except the proven model that works because they knoooow it gotta be possible with large square blocks of quarried marble tied to huskies. Just need more dogs. Or maybe more marble. mush! Ok add some more marble see if that works.
I posit that if we add a spoiler with 20" rims and a high flow muffler, this block of marble will surely take flight.
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the Trump administration has shown signs of enthusiasm for a pronatalist agenda. DOGE head Elon Musk, a father of 14, posts regularly on social media about the need for Americans to have more babies; he has also promoted NatalCon on X. Vice President JD Vance has proposed the idea of a weighted voting system, in which the votes cast by parents would be valued more highly than those by the childless. US Transportation Secretary Sean Duffy (a father of nine) signed a memo recommending that his department prioritize “communities with marriage and birth rates higher than the national average.”
Got to provide a continuous supply of children for the labour camps.
job market is packed enough
I think of all the oppressive governments, giving this medal must be a near universal thing that separates them from other governments.
yeah its mask off now what with the deathcamp
medals would be worrying like 13 years ago, and we would be saying, "hey i think this guy might want to do a deathcamp"
but there's a deathcamp now sooooooooooooooooooo
Founding of the Trump youth organization in 3... 2... 1...
If we ever get a group of MAGAlings running around, I'm going full Anakin Skywalker...
That's what they're hoping for. That's the whole point of using children as human shields.
Making American kids exert their bodies in ways Trump never ever has.
Students For Trump already exists, sorry.
Oh, well. Better just start working on the propaganda now in case I need to blend in:
what? no. Trump would never use child soldiers.
He needs them in the factories cranking out more of his cheap-shit product lines like hats, ties and bibles with the constitution in them. If they survive the factories- then they get to become soldiers and die for him. he doesn't like losers, afterall.
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