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“I think this is the worst election in my lifetime,” said George Argodale, a Nikki Haley supporter from Gainesville, Virginia. “It’s just terrible that we don’t have better candidates.”

“That’s a sad state of affairs for our country that those are the two best candidates that we can come up with,” agreed Peggy Hudson, a primary voter in Charleston, South Carolina.

Judith Smith, from Moncks Corner, South Carolina, said of Biden and Trump: “That’s like choosing between a hedgehog and a porcupine.”

As the primary season sputters to an expected ending, following Haley’s withdrawal from the Republican primary on Wednesday, voters’ frustration with their general election options is palpable.

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[–] [email protected] 7 points 8 months ago (4 children)

I don't see it that way.

one candidate wants to ensure the continued operation of democracy.

one candidate wants to be a dictator and inflict the american government on his perceived enemies and the enemies of his benefactors and cult members.

this is not a hard choice in my opinion.

[–] [email protected] -2 points 8 months ago (1 children)

One candidate is funding genocide.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 8 months ago (1 children)

One former president killed 1,000,000 of his own people by sitting on his ass and downplaying the risk of infection while hundreds of thousands died under his watch in 2020. By the time he left office, it was far too late to contain the damage; we were well on our way to one million being dead.

He doesn't give a fuck about anyone. This isn't an election to sit out over a single issue; this election could determine whether Russia attacks Europe and China attacks Taiwan if Ukraine falls and the former president is re-elected.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 8 months ago

If it's so important you'd think he'd stop funding genocide.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 8 months ago

One candidate wants to ensure the perpetuity of the existing corruption in the system... and democracy.

The other is an angry orange man-child with tiny hands and an authoritarian complex that wants to be the next dictator of the world.

So yeah, I agree, it's a no brainer.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 8 months ago

Our baselines are so low

[–] [email protected] 2 points 8 months ago

Sonic the hedgehog is a hero, Porcupine is a master of evil that's orange and yellow ffs. It's not a hard decision to make.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 8 months ago

No no no, we WANT a presidential election; that's literally the point of democracy. We just want better options.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 8 months ago (2 children)

Biden is currently the president. Why are people so fucking surprised that he’s one of the choices? The only surprising thing is that the republicans are running Trump again, after he lost last time.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 8 months ago

According to four people who regularly talk to Biden, all of whom asked for anonymity to discuss internal campaign matters, it is virtually inconceivable that he will run for reelection in 2024, when he would be the first octogenarian president.

https://www.politico.com/news/2019/12/11/biden-single-term-082129

[–] [email protected] -1 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Because he could have stepped aside for Kamala (or someone else) to run instead. The fact he's the incumbent doesn't mean he should be running.

And I say this because Canada is facing the same issue -- Trudeau will run again in the next election even tho many Canadians are sick and tired of his wishy-washy leadership and failure to stick to his promises.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Yes, but as in Canada, pretending Biden is just as bad as Trump (or Trudeau just as bad as PP) is really like saying " hey, I got a burn by touching that hot pot... Better off put my hand in the fire, iT'S tHe saME ThiNg"

[–] [email protected] -3 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Trudeau is as bad as PP. That's the problem ... either we have a useless PM or a Trump syncophant. The choice is for shit, simply because JT didn't step aside for Chrystia Freeland as he essentially promised.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

I strongly disagree that Trudeau is "as bad" as PP

I see nothing that tells me that PP would be better on the economy or social safety or quality of life improvement over Trudeau .. but with PP we get the shit on LGBT, shit on immigrants, shit on education glaze on top of the turd sunday

Ps: while I also would have liked for Freeland to get a shot... Canadians were shitting on her, just for being a woman in power, since the time she was actually doing good work (like dealing with Trump for new NAFTA)... Heck, they shit on Trudeau for being more welcoming of women in power (because he is fake apparently) and cheer for the cons whose fallen prince MacKey referred to his ex girlfriend as a female dog... in parliament

[–] [email protected] 43 points 8 months ago (2 children)

By contrast effect, any human being running against Donald Trump is clearly the better choice.

Pretending that it's difficult to decide between Biden and Trump is fucking absurd.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 8 months ago (1 children)

That’s the point. It really isn’t a choice, you must vote Biden or it gets the Trump again. Just forego these next 8 months of bullshit and just get it over with already. So much wasted time and money, and nothing accomplished. Best case scenario it right-of-center Biden for 4 years

[–] [email protected] 19 points 8 months ago

These articles are pro-Trump propaganda. It's the same bullshit they've been saying since Bush v Gore. It's the far right putting all their weight into pulling the Overton window as far to their side as possible.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 8 months ago (1 children)

The party system is at the root.. That and megalomania

[–] [email protected] -1 points 8 months ago

... and super rich men who decide who wins and loses.

[–] [email protected] 35 points 8 months ago (3 children)

A hedgehog who believes we can do better and a porcupine who wants to burn down your house and kill your entire family.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 8 months ago

Yeah, what a stupid analogy. It's the difference between "Oh, this thing is cute and slightly prickly" and "OH MY GOD I HAVE SPINES STUCK IN MY SKIN AND NEED MEDICAL ATTENTION!"

Like, one of those is clearly worse than the other.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 8 months ago (1 children)

A hedgehog who is committing genocide and a porcupine who approves of the genocide.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 8 months ago

No, a hedgehog who isn't stopping genocide and providing material support to both the genociders and genocidees versus a porcupine who said the genocide isn't going far or fast enough.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

But only if the porcupine gets all your money after the murder, and he can hire some one to do all the hard murder work, and he doesn't have to pay the hired murder person after the murdering.

[–] [email protected] 30 points 8 months ago (3 children)

“I think this is the worst election in my lifetime,”

Were they not alive for 2016?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 8 months ago

I disagree a lot with the idea that 2016 was a worse election. While a lot people absolutely hated Hillary, she also inspired a TON of people (both men and women). I see way way way fewer Biden stickers and signs than I did for Hillary. And back then there were a ton of conservatives who didn't know just how bad Trump was/is. This election has a Trump that most people know is terrible versus Biden who, while I think he has done a good job as a president outside of his support for Israel, hasn't really inspired anyone.

[–] [email protected] -2 points 8 months ago

Hillary sucked, but she wasn't literally supplying bombs to an ongoing genocide while campaigning.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 8 months ago (1 children)

I think there was one where the losers tried to overthrow the government, let me check my notes

[–] [email protected] 4 points 8 months ago

1860 and 2020.

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