So they are just making original movies bcs their franchises are failing and only want an original hit to start a new franchise.
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Maybe they need to tell theaters to calm the fuck down with their pricing and ads. Do one or the other. If I'm paying $15+/ticket to see a show, then don't lie to me about the showtime and include half an hour of commercials.
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I don't mind going out to a theater on occasion, but honestly I usually prefer to watch films at home. I can start them whenever I feel, pause if needed, have plenty of food/drinks, and can invite a friend or two over if they're interested.
I can’t afford the ticket and concessions, let alone the gas to drive there. $200 for one night’s entertainment or 4 days of food for a family of four and a dog?
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Have they Tried making even WORSE Original Movies and then Blaming Audiences again? I THINK that's How they can get Butts in Seats!
Another thought, when 80% of cinema movies are based on franchises you don't care about, you kinda stop following cinema schedules. Movies that are not expected to do well are also given less time in cinemas and worse time slots. I did watch Mickey17 because I knew about it beforehand but usually by the time I learn about a movie I actually want to watch it's already on its way out of the cinema.
Heh, looking at the article and the cesspool of WSJ comments:
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The elephant in the room (that the website dances around) is algorithmic attention. If people are glued to feeds on phones/at home, that's less time to chat about (and go to) movies that don't have the critical mass to pop into your feed. That sucks, as there's nothing movie studios can do about our toxic information environment.
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Going by the comments... Seems modern movie goers have a thin skin. Even the slightest hint of something woke is apparently unwatchable? But themes and conflicts that make you uncomfortable are what makes fiction interesting. This may cut both ways too (with, for instance, military-themed movies turning off more leftist moviegoers? I feel that way to some extent).
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Wanting to watch at home is a major contributing factor, but I think its overstated compared to the above two. Like, our local Movie Tavern isn't super luxurious, I have crazy technical family with OLED/surround setups, but going out is still a fun social excursion. Most peoples' home setups... aren't great.
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Maybe this is more personal to me, but I am way more into TV series than movies these days. There's just so much more time to worldbuild and assemble characters, and more room to run and play once established. But I would totally pay for a restaurant booth to, say, watch some TV episode I can pick with buds.
But themes and conflicts that make you uncomfortable are what makes fiction interesting
Most moviegoers want to shut their brains off and escape and be entertained for 90-120 minutes. Not be challenged or be uncomfortable.
I own thousands of movies on 4K and Blu-ray. I've had a surround sound setup since the mid-2000s. I have complete collections of many directors' entire filmographies. Even in my case, the ratio of entertained to challenged that I want most nights is about 90% to 10%.
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This is a good list, and to add:
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Consumer sentiment in general is terrible. A large part of the population are stressed and exhausted, and that's not a "let's go see something fun" mindset for many, it's "let's get through the day and watch comfort content."
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This is a time of the year in general where studios bury releases they don't have confidence in.
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Because of that, while many have reasonable Rotten Tomatoes scores, when you do that year after year, audiences start to stop paying attention around this time.
A large part of the population are stressed and exhausted, and that’s not a “let’s go see something fun” mindset for many, it’s “let’s get through the day and watch comfort content.”
I've witnessed this, too! I even know family that relaxed their long-form TV watching due to work stress, and generally hit the YouTube algorithim and other quick comfort food in its place.
Yep, I totally feel that. 10+ years ago I was into all sorts - psychological thrillers, crime and mystery, prestige TV drama, etc.
Ever since the pandemic, my taste has flipped dramatically to comfort TV (sitcoms and panel shows) and YouTube content like retro gaming channels, GMM, and Dropout.
I see these huge shows like Succession, White Lotus, etc and while they might’ve interested me in the past I just do not have the energy any more.
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military-themed movies turning off more leftist moviegoers? I feel that way to some extent
I suppose that depends on how war is depicted in the film. War is hell, but sometimes it's necessary. I don't love the idea of war, but Slaughterhouse Five lives on as one of my favorite books about war. Understanding war and its impacts are important, even if we don't like a world in which we have to resort to war.
Sure, a lot of American film makes war movies all "RAH RAH RAH USA USA USA," but that doesn't mean all films about war have to be that way, especially films about war made in other nations, who perhaps don't have their military so deeply ingrained in the film industry.
Hell, Three Kings is still an underrated war film which has an undercurrent of themes regarding capitalism and consumerism and how it relates to war.
Seems modern movie goers have a thin skin
Yeah, these MAGA babies can't handle anything at all that challenges their worldview. Even things that are supposed to challenge their worldview, like The Boys, instead re-enforces the same views because they simply have no media literacy.
Sure, a lot of American film makes war movies all “RAH RAH RAH USA USA USA,”
Here are the 3 "original" movies in my local theatre, to get more of what I mean:
Levon Cade left behind a decorated military career in the black ops to live a simple life working construction. But when his boss’s daughter, who is like family to him, is taken by human traffickers, his search to bring her home uncovers a world of corruption far greater than he ever could have imagined.
harlie Heller (Malek) is a brilliant, but deeply introverted decoder for the CIA working out of a basement office at headquarters in Langley whose life is turned upside down when his wife is killed in a London terrorist attack. When his supervisors refuse to take action, he takes matters into his own hands, embarking on a dangerous trek across the globe to track down those responsible, his intelligence serving as the ultimate weapon for eluding his pursuers and achieving his revenge...
Written and directed by Iraq War veteran Ray Mendoza and Alex Garland (Civil War, 28 Days Later), Warfare embeds audiences with a platoon of American Navy SEALs in the home of an Iraqi family, overwatching the movement of US forces through insurgent territory. A visceral, boots-on-the-ground story of modern warfare, told like never before: in real time and based on the memory of the people who lived it.
The last one (Warfare) kinda stands out, but see the pattern? "Ex black ops protag" is super popular, and I posit that, on average, it's a turn-off for leftists.
Oh, I don't dispute any of that. There's tons of media in that vein, and it is indeed all a turn off. I just meant there's occasionally a diamond in the rough, but they are indeed a rarity.
Hell, most of these just seem like movies that all want to be 2008's Taken with Liam Neeson really badly. Even Taken was honestly very silly and absurd. Like, he just walks away from these situations where he fucks up half the city and the cops somehow can't find him? It just cuts away and suddenly he's fine and on to the next bit.
However, it was an incredibly popular film, spawned multiple sequels, and there's definitely a whole genre of films in this vein. Nobody said Hollywood was very original, even when it comes to an original film. They still want formulas that they think will sell. Action tends to be the most popular, and to make action believable you have to have some backstory that makes these guys top tier fighters.
At least the John Wick films didn't rely on him being ex-military, I guess.
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are they marketing them thoug?, because the only things i hear about are disney remake bullshit and mcu slop
Mickey 17 was well advertised imo with big names attached. Still bombed.
I liked the movie, but it had no chance. The budget was way too big. It should never have been given such a big budget.
I want more mid-budget original movies that actually have a chance of financial success.
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I'm still confused by what happened with this film. I knew it was coming out, but I didn't get around to seeing it opening weekend, then by Wednesday of the next week the headlines stated that it was leaving theaters and heading to streaming.
I would have seen it in theaters, but once the streaming was announced I didn't mind waiting another week or two.
I just saw it and enjoyed it.
I feel like it didn't have any time to build momentum, just kicked almost straight to streaming.
The problem is the short time windows in theaters and yeah it was a good movie. The fact it was a trump analog hurt it and Paterson is a great actor fuck twilight but the Batman was a great movie and the penguin is a masterpiece of television.
Black bag didn't get any advertising. The problem is studios have trained their audience to expect slop then they put out a few good original movies for a short time window then point at it and say see audiences don't want original films.
-- guy that watches original movies every weekend in the theater
Also studios don't want original movies they want shit that they can make toys for or tie-ins with McDonald's. They also don't want directors with their own vision messing up their synergy with their marketing partners. They want people to put out content not art.
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This is a shame too, because it was for all intents and purposes a good movie. And I say that as someone who did not like Pattinson as an actor (thanks Twilight).
Things are kinda invisible if they don't trend on social media. Hence, meaning no offense to OP, they have not show up in OP's feeds.
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