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Backwater? Growing power?

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[–] Kolanaki@pawb.social 30 points 2 weeks ago (4 children)

I remember the late 90's saw a trend of making bad guys in movies Chinese instead of Russian like they typically were previously. It probably would have continued well into today, but 9/11 made it so the bad guys were now middle eastern.

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[–] singletona@lemmy.world 22 points 2 weeks ago

90's teenager: Corrupt government that was a maker of cheap goods and claimed to be first in everything ever and had the most bestest smartest refined cultureal history compared to us heathen backwater westerners.

THere's reasons I struggle with looking past my own mindset whenever anything china related in the sciences pop up, as my first thought is 'is there independant verfication there to prevent it from just being government propaganda bullshit?'

....kinda like i'm having to start doing with any 'official' anything here stateside now.

[–] ininewcrow@lemmy.ca 47 points 2 weeks ago (13 children)

Same thing happened with Japan.

This is before my time but I've known lots of older people who born in the 50s and grew up in the 60s and 70s.

Products made in Japan were once considered cheap things. I ride motorcycles so I talk to a lot of people about the history, especially with Honda and Yamaha. North American motorcycles were first British, German and American. When the Japanese started in the 50s and 60s, everyone laughed at them ... a common racist thing to call them back then was 'rice cookers' ... but within a decade, they took over and by the 80s they were dominating.

The same thing is happening in the EV market. Right now everything is even and the market is still new. But in a decade or two or less, the Chinese will dominate everything.

[–] singletona@lemmy.world 5 points 2 weeks ago

Not gonna lie though. The honda cub looked all kinds of fun as a buzz around bike. Nothing to prove, just 'here is a little city road burner.

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[–] sbv@sh.itjust.works 18 points 2 weeks ago (5 children)

In the 90s it was seen as a backwater with growing power. There was a sense that China's economic growth would push it towards democracy. Tiananmen Square seemed like proof of that.

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[–] blackbrook@mander.xyz 2 points 2 weeks ago

I want to say it was much less on people's minds in the U.S., but I don't 100% trust my memory.

[–] cabron_offsets@lemmy.world 6 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

80s into 90s it was starting to become obvious that economic might would shift from the West to China. Mostly because they sold us all of their shit plastics at first, then some good stuff along with even more shit plastics.

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[–] WHARRGARBL@lemmy.world 33 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

Starving Chinese kids were why I had to gag down my peas.

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[–] Dagwood222@lemm.ee 13 points 2 weeks ago

Nixon going to China was huge.

[–] jordanlund@lemmy.world 20 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Growing up in the 70s and 80s: "Oh, that's where all the toys come from!"

[–] nialv7@lemmy.world 6 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (2 children)

70s and 80s were before my time so that could be why i am mistaken, but i kind of thought it would have been Japan?

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[–] deegeese@sopuli.xyz 39 points 2 weeks ago

In the 80’s it was a poor backwater that was starting to take American jobs making cheap plastic crap.

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