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[–] skozzii@lemmy.ca 4 points 1 month ago

They are going to kill him, otherwise he will talk and all the secrets will come out.

[–] Indica_Jellies@lemmy.world 15 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Honestly, knowing the brutality of prisons... he might be dead. In which case, not only is it a showdown between the executive and judicial branches. It would lead to actual chaos as the Right has to try to make the unjust death of a man sound noble in the name of politics and the the Left struggles to figure out what the hell you do to bring justice when no one wants to serve it.

I pray he can return home safe and sound.

[–] CalipherJones@lemmy.world 7 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Here's their justification

"Brown gang member"

That's literally all terrified white Christian nationalists need to hear.

Doesn't matter at all whether it's true or not.

[–] aeternum@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 1 month ago

who's gonna make him?

[–] whodrankarnoldpalmer@startrek.website 29 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Curtis Yarvin, the Neil Breen of political “philosophers,” wrote that ignoring the courts is part of the plan- here’s his test case.

[–] Maggoty@lemmy.world 10 points 1 month ago

Oh no you're reading this wrong. SCOTUS just gave them permission. They said they must "facilitate" and that the lower courts order to "effectuate" was likely an over step.

The payload here is that facilitating means they'll send an official request that El Salvador will officially deny and then tell everyone they did everything they were ordered to do.

[–] Nusm@yall.theatl.social 13 points 1 month ago (2 children)
[–] theneverfox@pawb.social 2 points 1 month ago

Or the court can nominate project to enact their will.

We're putting together a team...

[–] Freshparsnip@lemm.ee 13 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

It'll go on Trump's permanent record.....which will prevent him from......well it won't prevent him from doing anything

[–] chiliedogg@lemmy.world 46 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Importantly, they replaced the lower Court's order to "effectuate" his return with "facilitate" and defined "facilitate" as to remove any barriers to his return on the US side.

So the ruling is actually "Don't prevent the government from which he was fleeing and that is now holding him prisoner in a labor camp from flying him back to the US for asylum."

[–] Batman@lemmy.world 5 points 1 month ago

There is a reply by the user monstrosity with a quote in which the Supreme Court clarified that it meant effectuate, and they're holding a status meeting this morning to see what progress is made.

[–] thesohoriots@lemmy.world 7 points 1 month ago

“Pinky swear you’ll put the Uber app on your phone and send him a ride.”

[–] dugmeup@lemmy.world 7 points 1 month ago

Facilitate, with no staff cause of DOGE.

[–] Geetnerd@lemmy.world 23 points 1 month ago

Roberts - "YOU STUPID BASTARD, YOU'RE GOING TO GET US ALL KILLED, AND I DON'T EVEN HAVE 2 YACHTS YET! MAKE IT HAPPEN, NOW!"

Trump - "FUCK YOU, I'M GOING TO TELL MY DADDY PUTIN ON YOU! WATCH WHAT YOU TOUCH AND DRINK FROM NOW ON, MOTHERFUCKER! I AM KING OF THE WORLD!"

[–] ChristmasApe@discuss.online 94 points 1 month ago (4 children)

9-0??

Somebody miss a payment to Clarence Thomas?

[–] kandoh@reddthat.com 26 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I'm guessing Roberts and Alito know the admin will ignore this court order and pushed Thomas to make it unanimous for the fight to keep the judiciary an actual branch of the government that is to follow

[–] void_turtle@lemmy.blahaj.zone 25 points 1 month ago (1 children)

The ruling is also meaningless. They ruled the US has to "facilitate" his return, but does not have to "effectuate" his return. The admin will interpret this to mean that as long as El Salvador doesn't take active steps to send him back, the US doesn't have to do anything to try to make them.

[–] Monstrosity@lemm.ee 16 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

I believe the original Federal judge has clarified the order?

Here's a link to the ruling issued just a couple hours ago & is requiring a response by early tomorrow morning:

https://www.courtlistener.com/docket/69777799/abrego-garcia-v-noem/

EDIT: Here's the direct text:

The Supreme Court’s April 10, 2025 decision in Noem v. Abrego Garcia, 604 U.S.—–, No. 24A949, affirmed this Court’s Order at ECF No. 21 (the “Order”), and directed that on remand, this Court clarify its use of the term “effectuate,” according proper deference to the Executive Branch in its conduct of foreign affairs. See Slip Op. at 2. To this end, the Court hereby amends the Order to DIRECT that Defendants take all available steps to facilitate the return of Abrego Garcia to the United States as soon as possible. Further, as the Supreme Court made clear, “the Government should be prepared to share what it can concerning the steps it has taken and the prospect of further steps.” See Slip Op. at 2.

Accordingly, the Court DIRECTS Defendants to file, by no later than 9:30 AM ET on Friday, April 11, 2025, a supplemental declaration from an individual with personal knowledge, addressing the following: (1) the current physical location and custodial status of Abrego Garcia; (2) what steps, if any, Defendants have taken to facilitate Abrego Garcia’s immediate return to the United States; and (3) what additional steps Defendants will take, and when, to facilitate his return. To the extent Defendants believe any portion of their submission must be filed under 1 Case 8:25-cv-00951-PX Document 51 Filed 04/10/25 Page 2 of 2 seal, they shall comply with the Court’s Local Rules governing the sealing of materials. See D. Md. Loc. R. 105.11.

Finally, the Court will hold an in-person status conference on Friday, April 11, 2025, at 1:00 PM ET, at the United States District Court for the District of Maryland, 6500 Cherrywood Lane, Greenbelt, Maryland 20770.

[–] Alexstarfire@lemmy.world 6 points 1 month ago

9-0? Hell has been freezing over a lot these past couple days.

That’s wild, usually he can be counted on to write something about how Thomas Jefferson actually wanted everyone to get in fatal plane crashes every day.

[–] foggy@lemmy.world 19 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I heard his RV is a little run down.

[–] wunami@lemmy.world 5 points 1 month ago

Could have gotten a brand new one from John Oliver.

[–] pelespirit@sh.itjust.works 18 points 1 month ago

How Abrego Garcia wound up in the mix remains unclear. The Trump administration frustrated one district court’s attempts to determine what happened by invoking the state secrets privilege over basic questions about the operation; it’s only said that Abrego Garcia was wrongly removed because he was placed on an alternate manifest that failed to note the order barring his removal.

After attorneys sued on Abrego Garcia’s behalf, a district court judge in Maryland, the state in which he was detained, ordered the government to facilitate his return.

[–] SeeMarkFly@lemmy.ml 46 points 1 month ago

The task is impossible as he's already dead.

There will be more excuses and more delays until they do something more stupid to get your attention off that.

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