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[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 days ago

What do they mean by targeted? Like targeted how and with what if they're talking about using the already targeted advertising data that shows a teen is receiving ads for emotional stuff?

[–] [email protected] 3 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago)

To the business world humans are ultimately just conduits to money. But somehow people think privatizing everything is the best way government can serve the public.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 5 days ago (1 children)

I pirated her book (because fuck her, she was a Facebook exec) and learned that she had a gnarly near-death experience as a child when she got attacked by a shark at the beach.

I didn't finish the book due to a combination of laziness and my general revulsion at anything Zuck adjacent, but if you have the stomach for it there's a cool shark attack story in it for you at least.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 5 days ago

Were you rooting for the shark?

[–] [email protected] 22 points 5 days ago (1 children)

/s Meanwhile, in some Signal group: “Should we suicide her or do you guys figure she might have some ICE-worthy tattoos?”

[–] [email protected] 2 points 5 days ago

:punch: :americanflag: :fire:

[–] [email protected] 3 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Ban optimisation without popular consent!

[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Sorry, I'm a bit dense. What do you mean?

[–] [email protected] 3 points 5 days ago (3 children)

Organisations aren't entitled to use automated systems to alter people's behaviour (i.e. here they're using an algorithm to maximise the number of ad clicks). It should only be allowed if it's in the interests of the people affected, and with their (informed) agreement

[–] [email protected] 3 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago)

I am betting it was already in that 40 page agreement you clicked when you singed up 😞

[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 days ago (2 children)

where would the line between manipulation and traditional advertisement be? theaters frequently exhaust the buttery scent in areas where theatergoers will be to intice them, casinos avoid 90° angels and clocks to disorientate customers and promote time blindness.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 5 days ago (2 children)

I'm not a native speaker and I legit googled "what are casino 90° angels", then I realized it was supposed to be "angles" and now I feel dumb lol

[–] [email protected] 3 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago)

On a 777 the angels blind you with divine light so you can't find your way out of the slot machines.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 5 days ago

It's a common mistake for even native speakers. Dessert 🎂 vs desert 🏜️ is another common one

[–] [email protected] 4 points 5 days ago

Yes these are also bad.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 5 days ago

He'll yeah dude! This should be the global law

[–] [email protected] 0 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Good thing InstaFlow exists

[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (1 children)

What's that weird write out on their webpage? It reads like a super cringy AI generated Instagram ad.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

There's a lot of fake versions, the real one is on Telegram and YouTube

[–] [email protected] 16 points 5 days ago (5 children)

Don’t all social media and internet companies do that? It’s all a case of machine learning. I can’t open Insta these days without being blasted with reels of boobs, cleavage etc. My wife gets reels of cooking, dancing etc. It doesn’t have to do anything with our searches or viewing. They’re using our personal information to create a model and shoving targeted content based on that down our throats. This has the highest probability of increasing engagement on their platform.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 5 days ago (1 children)

I'm convinced insta knows your a guy and will blast you with reels full of chicks no matter what you do.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Yeah, it’s impossible to escape the thottening. Same with snap

But emotional state?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 days ago

I can't speak to "emotional state", but the thottening is a real thing (I've spent weeks trying to stop having all these ass models from cluttering up my feed, it's impossible)

[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago)

Well sure, but it is more than that. Advertising ,broadly, is literally there expressly to manipulate your emotional state. Social media just gives them more info about your state so they are much more effective at it.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 5 days ago

Meta purposely pits extreme sides of every issue you could think of, gender, race, class, religion, even vegan, against each other. Every hate comment is great news for Meta. Hate comments mean that person is engaging so they will feed them more of that content and further drag them into their hateful beliefs. And why do they do that? To show them shirt and knicknack advertisements while they're frothing at the mouth.

Fuck Mark Zuckerberg. He's one of the worst humans on the planet and deserves terrible things to happen to him.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago)

Worth noting by the way that instagram is owned by Meta - the very company the post is calling out.

[–] [email protected] 21 points 5 days ago (1 children)

No, it's not normal. Almost no internet companies around the world try to do anything similar to what Meta did and does. Even if you focus on social media companies, I believe that only a small minority try to do that kind of thing.

For example, here we are on social media. Do you see any targeted advertising? Is it being done by the Lemmy instance? And how many instances are there? Then we could look at Mastodon, or discussion forums, or comment boards, or you name it. Of course you would expect some targeted advertising, like you might find computer advertisements if you're on a computer tech forum, but that's different from targeting users who are in a weak state of mind, precisely because it's targeting their overtly expressed general interests and not their temporary vulnerabilities.

Finally, I think you should go back and read the article. You ranted about companies trying to shove things down your throats, but the article was about how to misuse targeted advertising.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 5 days ago (2 children)

Lemmy is far from normal, it is not profitable as a social media platform and is reliant on donations and generosity.

Google AdSense does similar things to meta, as does amazon. This is far from a misuse, of the technology as that implies that this isn't accomplishing the intended goal, which, aside from laws trying to differentiate children from adults, it does.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 5 days ago

Yeah, sorry, but while still going too far, these companies get dwarved by meta when it comes to these practices. I work with certain advertising platforms and know it inside out (don't judge me lol). No way can we target based on emotional state or anything even closely resmlembling that.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 5 days ago

Neither google (at least for the first decade or so) or Amazon have such detailed data about you as facebook

[–] [email protected] 43 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Wake me up when something gets done about it other than a fine that amounts to about half a day's profit for them.

[–] [email protected] 20 points 6 days ago

They need to be jailed and their companied closed

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