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[–] [email protected] 24 points 1 month ago (3 children)

My mother was constantly telling me what my thoughts, feelings, and needs were when I was growing up. She never tried to get to know me. When I would explain my actual feelings or opinions, in detail, she'd accuse me of lying. I think she was actually just projecting everything she didn't like about herself, and sometimes her mother and sisters, onto me. Some of the qualities I supposedly had were mutually exclusive, or just didn't make sense when applied to the life stage I was in. She was telling me she hated how haughty and arrogant I was since I was 3 years old, at least. When I was a teen, out of nowhere, one day she started to tell me how sad it was that I was so insecure. I was like, I thought I was arrogant. How can I be arrogant and insecure at the same time? She said I'm arrogant because I'm insecure. But, she'd been characterizing me that way since I was a small child. What small child thinks or acts that way? Little kids are notoriously honest and straight-forward. What 3 year old has the emotional sophistication to behave arrogantly to cover up insecurity, and what does a 3 year old have to even be insecure about?

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[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 month ago

Alligators crocodiles and a brain aneurysm

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 month ago

Eh, I get it. But our parents (those of us who where lucky enough to have ones who were trying and loving), they did know us better then we thought.

Better than we know ourselves? Probably not. Of course at what age that becomes true is different for each kid and parent.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 month ago

That last one feels to real

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago

Seems to me you tend to be more like a great grandparent or aunt

[–] [email protected] 17 points 1 month ago

I work in a job that has to deal with a lot of parents. These types are absolutely not uncommon in the United States. I have seen so, so, so many kids completely traumatized by their shitty parents or their parents' shitty religion, to say nothing of my own miserable experiences. I think a large part of it comes from, as usual with Americans, total arrogance. I think a lot of parents just assume they'll know how to raise their kids, and don't actually do any research or study into developmental psychology to try and understand good parenting habits. Being a parent isn't easy and reading literature is a great way to learn ways to be better at it. Considering how the concept of learning is under attack in the U.S., I don't think it's a stretch to say a lot of parents don't really know what they're doing, don't have any interest in doing better, and a lot of them end up being shitty because of it.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Basically my upbringing in a nutshell. Had a parent gaslight me on my own gender identity since early on in my childhood and even made assumptions on my own bodily needs (overfeeding when I’m complaining that I’m stuffed, while bringing out more food for me to eat. Also not believing that I have to go to the bathroom as often as I asked, leading to accidents that I’ve been punished over).

And then they wonder why I barely talk

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[–] [email protected] 23 points 1 month ago

There's a time and a place for some intellectual humility, and that swings both ways. There are a lot of things we just don't know about the people we're close with, and at the same time there are a lot of things we don't fully understand about ourselves, that the more objective outside observer may be able to identify pretty easily.

And that goes both ways in a parent-child relationship, a sibling-sibling relationship, a friend-friend relationship, or even a spouse-spouse relationship.

My wife certainly knows certain things about me that I myself have blind spots about. And vice versa.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (3 children)

Almost like people online who can extrapolate your whole horrible personality and belief system from a comment they don't like.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 month ago

Oh you're that type...

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 month ago

That's why I like to put my horrible personality and belief system in my comments so no extrapolation is needed. Keeps things nice and simple.

BTW I think we should eat babies and I'm a grumpy asshole.

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[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I was curious to see if there were people who pointed out that there is truth in parents knowing kids better than they know themselves. It's nice to see that it's getting pointed out.

"My parents don't understand me" is a classic coming of age sentiment that you realize later is not really unique or true. A lot of people pointed out that a bad parent can abuse the sentiment. Likewise, an abusive person looking to take advantage of a kid can also abuse this to isolate them from their parents. A good parent also knows to let the kid "rage against the machine" in safe ways since they aren't at a point yet where they will realize life is far less exotic than they hope it is for them.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 month ago

Eh, every time I tried to reveal a part of me that didn't jive with their religion, it was rejected. This continued into adulthood. For me it's: my parents refuse to understand me. I have hidden things from them for a long time which lead to them really not knowing me. That's what this is about and many, many people have experienced similar things. I don't think that should be dismissed.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 month ago (1 children)

"You'll get bored of this thing in a week and then it'll just go unused."

"No I won't, gosh mom, this is not a phase"

*the exact thing they said would happen did indeed happen

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[–] [email protected] 59 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (2 children)

Dear parents, if you're always romping around your house ranting about your convictions, your politics, your religion or your opinions of other people, your kids are NEVER going to be open and honest with you.

If you have ever told your kids "You can tell me the truth" and then proceeded to lose your shit when you heard the truth, your kids are NEVER going to be open and honest with you.

If you do this and you think your kids are just the sweetest, kindest and most obedient and well-behaved kids in the world, you're DEFINITELY going to end up in a home.

[–] [email protected] 30 points 1 month ago (2 children)

And to make it crystal clear - trust doesn't magically reset as soon as a kid hits puberty. If you've been dismissing them and their concerns throughout childhood, they aren't going to suddenly come to you with their problems, no matter how much you tell them they can.

I remember my parents ignoring my complaints as a kid. Then around the age of 12 or so, it was like a switch was flipped. I was being told frequently that I could "come to them with any problem." Cool, just one question - where was this attitude a few years ago, when all my issues were "silly kid stuff" to you? I was basically trained throughout my life to never to bother you with my problems. You can't just undo that by saying a few magic words over and over.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

I'm quite convinced that linear-minded parents just project everything they hated about themselves as children onto their own children without even thinking about what the kid is going to remember or not. My earliest memory, like age 3, was my dad getting angry for no reason and pushing my face in the dirt when my mom wasn't looking. It was my first formative memory and still as sharp in my mind as when it happened, because it confused me and made me feel betrayed and forever unsure what was going to happen in the future.

edit: And what happened in the future? A lot more sneaky abuse and psychological torture. Until I finally went no-contact at 35. He eventually died alone from alcohol overdose after having alienated everyone in his entire life or driving them to self destruction. I say again, you reap what you sow.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 month ago (4 children)

My mother, now that she is old, frequently asks if I remember random things: people I used to know, places I've been, hobbies I used to enjoy. And when I say yes, her response is, "Oh, but that was so long ago!" or, "But you were just a child then!" I think what she actually wants to know is if I remember all the horrible things she said and did to me. 🙄

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[–] [email protected] 21 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

I was always jealous of most of my friends parents.

Mine were fine as parents, but we never got close because they're Baptists and I rejected their church as a teen. I self censor a lot around them. Which is tiring, so I don't try to see them more than a couple times a month.

Most of my friends, their parents took up more of a close friend role I noticed in our 30's.

Edit; I guess it bothers me more now because I know they're not around for much longer.

[–] [email protected] 60 points 1 month ago (1 children)

A good parent often will know more about their child than the child themselves. Unfortunately, many bad parents think they know more.

It's also ages dependent. Till the late teens, children often don't have a good handle on their internal state. They can often get there by 10-12, then teenage hormones do a number on it again.

Finally, it's down to the parents to teach the child how to understand what they feel. This also requires open and honest communications. You can't help and train them to cope appropriately, without knowing what's happening. You can't know what's happening without communication.

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[–] [email protected] 31 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

"You never tell me anything!", they complain.

I vaguely remember that I was generally quite chatty in like, kindergarten, in stark contrast to today. Though to be fair, it might not have been my parents, or at least not only my parents, who fucked that up.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I'm personally sad for the person that posted that. Not every parent is a bad parent.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Way too many, though, and even the ones who are good or at least neutral on the whole might still not be cool about a lot of topics.

[–] [email protected] -5 points 1 month ago (2 children)

You tied my brain into a knot.

way too many

I'll grant that; if only one bad parent existed, it would be one too many. Yet this will drag us into defining what a bad parent is. And by extension:

even the ones who are good or at least neutral

What defines one and the other and what separates one from the other?

might still not be cool about a lot of topics

Which ones? Give me an example, please. And are all people supposed to be open or receptive or knowledgeable about every single topic?

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Which ones? Give me an example, please. And are all people supposed to be open or receptive or knowledgeable about every single topic?

e.g. they could be cool about normal/common interests like football, mainstream music and heterosexual relationships and uncool when their children instead like punk rock, ballet (for boys) or homosexual relationships. They don't necessarily need to be knowledgable from the get-go, but they do need to be open-minded. Most children will happily explain their interests to you if you (the parents) didn't discourage that behavior in the past. If it's a longterm interest of your child, you should probably look into it yourself to become knowledgable on it.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I'm getting the feeling you're reporting from a narrow reality.

Which is fine, because your life experience is valid by itself.

Those are not subjects I see as disruptive, personally, and neither in my social surroundings, and I live in a pretty conservative area.

A kid here came out as gay in his 12. His family is very well known for being very religious and upstandimg, yet they took the hit and moved on. The kid is very much gay, in all definitions of the word, and the family is still supporting him. The grandma on the father's side almost had a cow but that quickly blew over.

Yes, parents could and should make an effort to be available for their kids but most people kind of "decouple" from the role besides conceiving the kids and taking them to school. Most forget how it was to be one. And that is sad. Does that makes them bad? No. Just absent, which is sad.

Risking entering personal grounds, I would not give two seconds for any of the subjects you mention as difficult or problematic. It's not my life; my role, as a parent, is doing my best to get my kids ready to be proper human beings. It's not easy, I do have to be the "bad guy" more often than I would like, only I know how much it hurts me do so, but it's my role to set boundaries. But meddling on interests, likings and sexuality is not my role.

I'll risk I'd get the stink eye from many people here if I was to tell how I handle educating my kids.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 month ago (1 children)

took the hit and moved on.

Take the hit?

Does that makes them bad? No. Just absent, which is sad.

No, that makes them bad.

But meddling on interests, likings and sexuality is not my role.

It's not a "role."

I think you are so smug about how great a parent you are, that you might need some self-reflecting. These are some very questionable choices by you. I'd like to ask your kids how it's going when you're not around.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Figure of speech. The family took the hit on their pride, being the people they are. But life carried on. The kid is fine and happy.

No. An absent parent is an absent parent. What makes that person absent is what may make them bad parents.

A couple or a single parent that has to work long hours to provide for their house, which forces them to entrust their children to a school and care system are not bad people nor parents: they're just doing what they can to live and provide for their child or children.

A parent that is not present for their children because they can't be bothered to do so, when they could is a bad parent. A parent that just checks out to go to work, thinking that material possessions can fill the gap they create by not being around are absent but not bad. Stupid but not bad.

I stand by my words. Meddling in personal likings, interests and sexuality is not a role any parents should take. But feel free to elaborate on this point. I sense there was more to be said. I'm an adult; I can take a critique.

And I appreciate your concern for my children but it wasn't you that had to search help for feeling inadequate as a parent, because my own father was a sorry excuse of a human being and I didn't want to go down the same road.

I'm not passing judgement on you; how about you show me the same courtesy?

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 month ago

No. An absent parent is an absent parent. What makes that person absent is what may make them bad parents.

You can be absent physically and not be absent emotionally.

A parent that is not present for their children because they can’t be bothered to do so, when they could is a bad parent. A parent that just checks out to go to work, thinking that material possessions can fill the gap they create by not being around are absent but not bad. Stupid but not bad.

I think I understand where you're coming from on this. You think that it's the intentions behind it that makes a parent good or bad. I say that it's more than that. Does the child feel loved and safe? Then the other stuff is peripheral. If you're absent working and come hope happy to see your kid, then all the other stuff can be dismissed, imo. If Dad goes off to work for a month away, the kid will be mad and upset, but it's not life changing if they know they're loved.

I stand by my words. Meddling in personal likings, interests and sexuality is not a role any parents should take. But feel free to elaborate on this point. I sense there was more to be said. I’m an adult; I can take a critique.

From the "take the hit" comment, I thought you were coming from a different angle. I agree meddling is bad, but being a sounding board and learning from each other about their liking's, interests and sexuality is great. It sounded like you were completely hands off and not talking about it at all. Accepting the person as they are is the goal. Again, the feeling loved and safe part.

And I appreciate your concern for my children but it wasn’t you that had to search help for feeling inadequate as a parent, because my own father was a sorry excuse of a human being and I didn’t want to go down the same road.

I'm glad you searched for help.

I’m not passing judgement on you; how about you show me the same courtesy?

Again, the "take the hit" part made it sound like you were judging the kid. I apologize. I helped raised kids when I was too young to do so and made a lot of mistakes and have regrets. I wish someone would have been direct with me and I was offering what I would have wanted. Good discussion anyway.

[–] [email protected] 20 points 1 month ago (1 children)

A surprising percentage of the world is okay with making their children homeless if they are any variety of LGBTQ+.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 month ago (11 children)

Where? Because I would go straight to jail if I tried to pull that stunt in my country.

Abandonement, deriliction of paternal duties, abuse, mistreat... these are just from the top of my head. The list can grow longer.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Child abuse and neglect are illegal, but not always enforced in my country. United States.

I was a gay child that was medically neglected and later homeless. Even more frustrating, they claimed me on their taxes when I was an adult and got money for caring for me even though I didn't get any support. I knew a girl that was beaten by her parents and social services didn't do anything because she was fed and housed and the foster system was overwhelmed in her area. I even knew someone that was removed from their home because they were beaten by their parents so bad they went to the hospital. Their siblings were not removed (so they remained living with an abuser) and they were forced back to their parents after six months. No jail for any of these people.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 month ago (1 children)

That is simply awful. I have no words to express what is going on in my head right now.

Nobody, no child, no human being should ever go through such an experience.

I sincerely hope you are in a better situation today and as happy as you can humanly be.

What you are telling just illustrates how callous and inhumane the system is there.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 month ago

Thank you. I am doing pretty much as well as one can given the circumstances.

Unfortunately I have lasting damage that has disabled me and makes it pretty much impossible for me to do anything of real substance to make things better, but I am doing everything I can.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Large swathes of the continents of North America and Asia, and parts of Africa?

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 month ago

Like in anything, it depends.

Growing up, I lived in an area where many people came from Angola, Cape Verde, Mozambique, etc, and there was a large tolerance towards being non-heterossexual in that community.

I'll even risk I am how I am because I was exposed to those positive examples. People were just people.

I'll gladly admit I lack knowledge regarding Asia.

North America. You're thinking of the US, right? I'll agree.

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[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Hmm, I bet my mom actually could name some of my existential dreads. I should ask. I bet she'd love that text at 8am.

[–] [email protected] 24 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Lucky. My mom can't even name my gender, sexuality, or name, much less an existential dread or phobia.

Escalators. Those things freak me out. They're just waiting to eat my flip-flops, which I don't wear, or catch fire.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 month ago

I really am incredibly lucky. She's the type of mom who will adopt people when their own parents are shitty, too, so we could share if you want.

And that's fair - I'm ok with escalators when I'm in closed toed shoes but I do get a little iffy in sandals. My one real phobia is wet paper (like very wet, I don't panic if I spill a little on my desk), so it's way weirder than escalators.

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[–] [email protected] 39 points 1 month ago (1 children)

This just makes it seem that in order to enjoy tumblr, you had to have shitty parents.

Seems about right.

[–] [email protected] 35 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Aw shit. My kid is constantly on Tumblr :/

[–] [email protected] 16 points 1 month ago

We’re sorry you had to learn this way

[–] [email protected] 22 points 1 month ago

Well, this is awkward.

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[–] [email protected] 101 points 1 month ago (4 children)

"I know you better than yourself" my parents say like it didn't take them 5 years and my therapist outing me to realize I was serious about liking guys x3

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