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Full title: Ubisoft says you "cannot complain" it shut down The Crew because you never actually owned it, and you weren't "deceived" by the lack of an offline version "to access a decade-old, discontinued video game"

Ubisoft's lawyers have responded to a class action lawsuit over the shutdown of The Crew, arguing that it was always clear that you didn't own the game and calling for a dismissal of the case outright.

The class action was filed in November 2024, and Ubisoft's response came in February 2025, though it's only come to the public's attention now courtesy of Polygon. The full response from Ubisoft attorney Steven A. Marenberg picks apart the claims of plaintiffs Matthew Cassell and Alan Liu piece by piece, but the most common refrain is that The Crew's box made clear both that the game required an internet connection and that Ubisoft retained the right to revoke access "to one or more specific online features" with a 30-day notice at its own discretion.

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[–] [email protected] 37 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (3 children)

That's why I boycott video games from Ubisoft. I loved and am nostalgic of their previous outstanding games from when it was great - think of Beyond Good and Evil, the original 3 Prince of Persia games and the assassin's creed games until odyssey(I'm hesitant to include Valhalla, but I'm at witt's end here as Einar Selvik sang and composed the ost of the game for goodness' sake). I even paid a (🤮) connect+ subscription that they threatened at some point that some accounts may be lost as per a number of days of innactivity.

But enough is enough, Ubisoft be better prepared to not own a company and be manned by Tencent. As much as I hate even the latter, Ubisoft is a scummy company and needs to be properly grouped in the scummy companies even by allegiance.

I hope the European Citizen's innitiative for video games passes, in the end. The source code/maintenance of discontinued/stopped projects ought to be maintained by the players and its community.

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[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 month ago

That's one of the many reasons why I never bought it.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

To think this is the same company that has to use mythic quest show to promote its propaganda as good PR, guessing it's partiall Rob's machelennys fault for being so thirsty to stay in Hollywood spotlight he had to approach something like ubisoft.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Having watched all of Mythic Quest, I had no idea what you meant and looked it up - I didn’t realize there was any connection. How does the show promote Ubisoft?

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[–] [email protected] 16 points 1 month ago (3 children)

Give it another 5 years and Ubisoft will be dead, what was the last Ubisoft game without controversy/bad gameplay? I gotta go back 10 years or so

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 month ago (7 children)

Prince of Persia: The Lost Crown was well received.

Their "AAAA" output is pure slop, but the smaller games can be OK.

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[–] [email protected] -1 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

without controversy

Anno 1800 was an Epic exclusive (and Ubisoft's Uplay) for a year on release. It was available for pre order on Steam. I believe people that bought it on Steam prior to the one year exclusivity deal still got it. It was a whole thing though. Definitely would call it a controversy.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 month ago (1 children)

When was the Mad Max game released?

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[–] [email protected] 89 points 1 month ago (1 children)

If buying isn’t owning then sharing isn’t stealing…

By principle I avoid “online required” games.

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[–] [email protected] 65 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Don't like this? Sign the EU petition Stop Killing Games.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 month ago

Yea I was thinking about this !

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[–] [email protected] 150 points 1 month ago (3 children)

Ubisoft cannot complain if I pirate their games, because they never actually sold them. And I'm not deceiving them with my intention of never, ever, give them a dime.

[–] [email protected] 44 points 1 month ago (12 children)

Yeah I'd really like to know how this 'you don't ever own the game' fits in with their other line 'piracy is theft'.

how can you have stolen something if you haven't actually gotten it?

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 month ago (2 children)

You are right you can't steal something that is not ownable, but paying for the game is what allows you to play so playing without stealing is still breaking their rules. Instead of buy to own they made it pay to play. But that sucks so fuck them anyway

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[–] [email protected] 17 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

I think I didn’t buy or play anything Ubisoft since Far Cry 4? And even that was more of an accident.

So from my perspective Ubisoft is that one flaccid one night stand who is still screeching about stuff while I moved on years ago.

Edit: I just checked. I didn’t even buy Far Cry 4. Oh whoops.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 month ago

It's just a map pack for Far Cry 3 anyway...

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 month ago

I reserve my right to complain.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Fuck Ubisoft, I don't know why everyone on Reddit loves em

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 month ago

The r/gaming comments about this topic look exactly the same as here but go off if it makes you feel better or whatever.

[–] [email protected] 53 points 1 month ago

Sweet. Just giving me more reasons to not buy Ubisoft’s garbage.

[–] [email protected] 44 points 1 month ago

They can't complain when I never actually give them money but still play then

[–] [email protected] 19 points 1 month ago

You're right, Ubisoft. I CAN'T complain about not owning the game. I never bought it. You know.....because it's an Ubisoft game!

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I actually enjoyed the first two Crew games and probably would have checked out Motorfest by now if they didn't remove the first game from my library. But now, why should I ever buy another Ubisoft game when I don't know how long they'll bless me with the ability to play the games I've paid for? They even included expiration dates for their game keys and they're acting like those dates were completely meaningless. So, even if they try to add an end of life date for future purchases, how would I know they're not lying like they did with these original keys?

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 month ago

This is why I have stopped buying anything Blizzard. They removed the Warcraft 3 I payed for and replaced it with a completely unplayable something I didn't want. Ubisoft has been on my shit list for a while for unrelated reasons too, but now they are on my never again list. And I never even played The Crew. Bad business is bad business even if it doesn't directly impact me.

[–] [email protected] 67 points 1 month ago (3 children)

Ubisoft can't complain that I wont buy their games if I don't really own their games.

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