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Full title: Ubisoft says you "cannot complain" it shut down The Crew because you never actually owned it, and you weren't "deceived" by the lack of an offline version "to access a decade-old, discontinued video game"

Ubisoft's lawyers have responded to a class action lawsuit over the shutdown of The Crew, arguing that it was always clear that you didn't own the game and calling for a dismissal of the case outright.

The class action was filed in November 2024, and Ubisoft's response came in February 2025, though it's only come to the public's attention now courtesy of Polygon. The full response from Ubisoft attorney Steven A. Marenberg picks apart the claims of plaintiffs Matthew Cassell and Alan Liu piece by piece, but the most common refrain is that The Crew's box made clear both that the game required an internet connection and that Ubisoft retained the right to revoke access "to one or more specific online features" with a 30-day notice at its own discretion.

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[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Good reminder to never buy an Ubisoft game.

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[–] [email protected] 21 points 1 month ago

Things like this make it really easy for me to not buy anything from Ubisoft.

[–] [email protected] 78 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (24 children)

If you never actually own a Ubisoft game that logically pirating them isn't theft right? Right?

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 month ago

Yes sir 100% correct.

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[–] [email protected] -4 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

Lol, everyone here sucking Ubisoft toes at every negative mention of Avowed and ACS for the past few months and now y'all get outraged?

Lmao, what a performative level of virtue signaling🤣

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 month ago

believe it or not, it's possible for 2 things to be true at the same time. ACS is cool even though Ubisoft is evil. what you call virtue signaling is just people having interests

[–] [email protected] 17 points 1 month ago

What I love about being a broke bitch retro gamer is that I own my games. I have a Tetris cartridge that is older than I am and still works. The batteries on some of my GB and GBA carts have died, but that’s something I can fix. No one can send a stealth update to my Sega Genesis that forces me to create on an account to play or even bricks it somehow. There’s no room for human shit behavior, just a war against the realities of mechanical decay. (And it’s easy to rip ROMs in case of the inevitable.)

Older generations of gaming are well preserved. I don’t think the past ten years or the future will be. “Games as a service” is too big a draw - the goal is to turn everything into a subscription model because why make money once when you can make it forever?

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 month ago (1 children)

We should all start a boycot and stop buying anything ubisoft, then release a statement when they go down saying: "cannot complain" and weren't "deceived" by the lack of "access to our decade-old money".

But that will never happen.

Would be funny tho.

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[–] [email protected] 24 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

EU cutizens can sign European Citizens' Initiative that aims to prevent publishers using killswitches to permanently disable games. If it gets 1M signatures, it will be discussed in European Comission.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 month ago (1 children)

That's 1 million signatures, not 100k.

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[–] [email protected] 90 points 1 month ago (3 children)

Let's see if the physical disc once said anything about needing an online connection for single play. Oh look, it did not, the subscription required was only for 2-8 players network play.

Let's compare with Destiny 2's back cover, a game that is a MMO and thus "cannot be owned" by the players. Hey, a "Online Play (Required)*" sticker that is not present on The Crew! The fine print has a bit that states that "Activision makes no guarantee of regarding availability of online play or features, and may modify or discontinue online services at its discretion without notice."

FF14 also had a "Online Play (Required)*" sticker on its back cover. It clearly states on the rectangular bit above the T Rating: "Users are granted only a limited, revocable license and do not own any intellectual property in the game or game data"

You deceived consumers, Ubisoft. "Online Play Required" is not there, so the game should remain playable offline.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 month ago

☝️ This guy lawyers

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

You deceived consumers, Ubisoft.

~~Ubisoft is being fucked on consumer protection grounds, not on false advertisement. It doesn't matter what they said on box, they broke the law.~~

EDIT: fuck, this is USSA lawsuit. I thought it was French(and EU in general) one.

[–] [email protected] 63 points 1 month ago (5 children)

When does Ubisoft realize that "you never owned it" and "you can't complain" are arguments for not buying their next game?

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 month ago

They can’t complain because they never got my money.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 month ago (1 children)

They know. But consumers / voters are morons that will buy anyway, so they have no incentive to give a fuck.

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[–] [email protected] 28 points 1 month ago

Why buy what you can't own? ☠️

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[–] [email protected] 21 points 1 month ago (3 children)

Oh look. Yet another reason to continue my Ubisoft boycott.

[–] [email protected] -5 points 1 month ago (4 children)

Boycott doesn't work, grab pitchforks and torches(EU citizens only).

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