And yet again they're based out of Europe, which makes this out of reach for most Canadians.
this post was submitted on 09 Apr 2025
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This feels off. Just the hardware configuration doesnt make any sense. The soc will be over 5 years old when this thing releases. Those four a76 cores @ 2,4 Ghz wont wow you with their performance and would be a downgrade compared to a flagship with a SD865 released 5 years ago. Which is alright by its own tbh. But why the fuck combine it with 32gb of ram? Thats just excessive and apart from hyper specific edge cases this just doesnt make any sense. Especially when looking at the eMMC storage. Personally i already find UFS 3.1 painfully slow when it comes to desktopish usecases sometimes. But eMMC is just pure ass.
This is like buying a pre built with a 12100f with 128gb of ram and only harddrives as storage. Like there is probably a really small market for that. But for everybody else it would be just such a bad choice.
The new eMMCs are 400MB/s (so SATA-ish level) with random writes about there as well, it depends what specifically they'll be using. It's also more power efficient than SSDs, however it can't address more than 256GB (so consider SD speeds too).
There also isn't anything wrong with having a lot of RAM if it doesn't impact the battery considerably. Which it prob does.
Interesting, didnt know about the current state of eMMC. That would be certainly useable if its the new stuff.
Regarding the ram: Yeah, a lot of ram isnt bad. But it also costs money and i dont feel like that amount of ram in combination with the rest of the hardware is too beneficial. Maybe i lack the creativity but i dont see applications where you need that much of ram and wont be bottlenecked by that 5 year old mid tier mobile SOC. Like my desktop gaming rig has 32gb of ram and current flagship phones still use sometimes just 12gb and go up to 24gb in very rare cases. 32gb just feel imbalenced with the rest of the hardware.
Bus already pointed out about actually having the chance to use the RAM.
In regards to cost - I would be confident they chose what was optimal, you can't compare this to retail PC market, these are specific b2b deals, they could have literally gotten the 32GB chips significantly cheaper than 16GB.
What I'm not confident is battery usage, 32 giggies will use twice the power (which isn't a lot but it is all the time, you don't really turn off RAM) of the exact chip in 16 giggler flavour.
CPU bottlenecking isn't really RAM related. And I wouldn't say nowdays 5 year old CPUs are outdated (like a 5yo chip 10 or 15 years ago). I would use my phone much as my PC, so an old CPU but plenty of RAM sounds about what I want.
Also it's Linux, not some bloated megacorp OS, so it's a bit better, tho apps remain much the same (eg browsers & web pages).
fair enough, maybe i'm stupid(which i am) but give me a usecase for 32gb of ram. completly disregarding the fact that this thing is a phone. Using it as an desktop device via an usb-c hub. when do you need 32gb of ram involving software which isnt bottlenecked by a 5 year old mobile chip? My 12 core AMD 3900X and my 5800X3d ramp up their cooling fans before my RAM gets maxed out with eg Firefox. C'mon i already admitted that there are edge cases. But this configuration is weird man. Especially considering that linux in itself isnt a ram hog in general.
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Don't forget that Linux isn't isn't nearly as aggressive as Android in killing background processes, which means RAM is far more likely to stay hanging, and you probably don't want to be swapping on the eMMC.
fair, but we're still talking about 32 frigging GB of ram in a phone. not that it should count as a best practice baseline but apple sells 16gb laptops as the entry point and tbf at the moment its just enough and their performance is sitting in a completly different league
ram can be used to heavily compensate for slow read speeds and can make slow memory leaks less of an issue, also with that much you probably don't need a swap file/partition.
Apple selling 16GB laptops is something anyone in the know regards as essentially criminal.
it is. i firmly state: fuck apple. now give me a single reason why an underpowered linux device needs 32gb.
give me a single reason
lmao. so you cant give me reason and just post some memes instead. fair enough. idgf. its a cool device. having 32gb of RAM is fucking rad on a phone. but its stupid. its an inbalenced configuration with that weak ass soc. that was my whole point. but you couldnt even prove your point on an academic level.
This isn't some meme, it's a screenshot from my computer.
so, running 50+ instances of different programs at the same time is your argument why a phone needs 32gigs of ram. thanks for the discussion dear internet person. especially after i stated several hours ago there might be edge cases.
This is a single program.
Thanks for dismissing other people's experience that don't match yours, you're a real one.
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A few points:
- LiberuxNexx sounds like a medication's marketing name.
- It says "2TB storage" then in the details it's actually 256GB + microSD support, which IMHO is very different.
- To me, this just sounds like a new version of the PinePhone Pro or Librem 5. Yes, it's got newer & better hardware, but there's no release date or even price.
I want this to be good, but I agree with all these points, right down to the possibility that we may never even see this thing released.
What happened to librem anyway? They used to be all the rage, now it's nothing.
They’re still available for sale and they post development updates every month.
It’s just not a popular device.
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Bookmarked, will definitely give this a look.
This has been tried a few times now. Why will this one succeed?
i think that's not a great way to think about it. when is the year of the linux desktop? its a slow build until its a viable ecosystem.
if companies just stopped making linux phones, the ecosystem would wither up and die (not counting postmarketos)
every new linux phone will inspire new people to try linux on a phone, and eventually we may have a viable alternative to ios and android.
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It bugs me how, within a month after Apple releases a new iPhone, small-time manufacturers put together the hardware, custom ROMs, and tooling to pump out bespoke knock-offs of the latest model. Which sell for maybe $200. While we're stuck worrying that the development of a new Linux phone, with completely ordinary hardware by today's standards, might get mismanaged to hell or ends up costing a fortune.
It won't outside small niches. If people can't use their banking apps, it's dead before release.
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but will it have a magnetic ink display option
I'm all for it but it's in the cowdfunding stage. We'll have to see what becomes of it.