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The American Age Is Over - by Jonathan V. Last (www.thebulwark.com)

submitted 2 weeks ago by [email protected] to c/[email protected]

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No matter what happens, I believe the author is correct. Europe will not trust the US in a long time. Trump actually has managed to destroy the image of America in the entire world, in a few months.

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[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I can't stop watching this train wreck. I mean fuck it's bleak but I just can't look away.

Anyone care to guess what's in store for the week to come?

I wouldn't be surprised if there's a run on TP.

I read some comments about food shortages as Mexico exports to other markets. I wonder how likely that is?

I just have no. freakin. idea. how the MAGA crowd is going to react to price increases. I mean, it's pretty hard to explain any of this away or blame it on anyone else. Even official propaganda people don't know what to say.

Is a mutiny even in the realm of possibility? If there are food shortages and riots, would the republican house ever pass an impeachment?

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (2 children)

Repubos won't ever think critically about it. Trump said things have to get worse before they get better. So like Christians thousands of years ago (and today) they will go through the hardship thinking that there's a better life awaiting them. But it won't ever come.

Best case: Trump gets impeached, Vance takes over and they walk back some of this bullshit.

Worst case: Trump brings the army to start un-terrorist-ing protestors, declares martial law and enacts even worse policies.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Vance is more protectionist than Trump. Trump has surrounded himself with a group of people who believe in American exceptionalism and isolationism like a religion.

Laura Loomer (far right conspiracy theorist who plays Jigsaw in the Saw horror film franchise) came in and advised Trump to fire National Security Agency director Gen. Timothy Haugh as well as multiple others for disloyalty, in favour of more Trump-friendly appointees.

This is usually a a step before we go full Emperor has no clothes because intelligence is supposed to be apolitical. If Trump only wants intelligence that feels good to him, then the US is truly fucked.

Its doubtful that America will recover from this. The rest of the Western world needs to figure out how to make their soft landing.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 week ago

Worst case sounds like Trumps usual behavior.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 week ago (1 children)

As an American living in Europe, I can see things from the outside looking in. And this article is spot on.

It's time to start your exit strategies, if you're in the US. Get your passports, go to the consulates and apply for your visas, buy your tickets, leave. Apply for asylum if you have to.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

I'm a waiter, I'm definitely stuck here.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Good fucking riddance

[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I'm from Europe, I have relatives in the US, I've spent a whole year doing my senior year in the US, I've traveled to the US multiple times. What is currently happening makes me incredibly sad. I've always seen Trump as something temporary, some illness that has befallen a great country that soon will be healed. But what JVL writes is true, trust in the US is gone, for good. I see it within myself, my peers and in the local media.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Would it change your opinion in the long run if it ended up being proven that the 2024 election was stolen?

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 week ago

I’d say no. Regardless of it being stolen or not, the amount of damage done with no (read: few?) checks and balances does not present the US as a democracy at all.

It should have been impossible, but he and his team have found and abused every single legal loophole there is and it does not seem like the majority of politicians are interested in fixing them.

It’s not trust inspiring when one person can write a presedential order overuling a literal constitunional amendment.

I don’t hate Americans. Most are great people, but I do hate their rotten to the core political system.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 week ago

Not the person you responded to, but no.

As long as the US does not fix it's broken two party system and reconciles it's divided society it cannot be trusted.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Well, he laid the ground work years ago. And now that he is back in office, it’s clear America has poisoned its population to the point that we are untrustworthy and probably too dangerous to deal with.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

America is the epicenter of the dis and misinformation distrubution machine that is social media. It was bound to be an issue eventually. Flew too close to the sun. AI/LLMs will only accelerate the process.

In hindsight, it's amazing how ready the far right was for this new means of communication. Historically the left has been younger and more tech saavy but the far right seems like they're a decade ahead of the left when it comes to spreading their propoganda on social media.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 week ago

Thank Peter Thiel.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

Donald wanted a wall around America. We got one! Who paid for it? Our democracy.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

Trump's presidency has made me lose respect for America. I haven't lost respect for every individual American; many voted against this. But the majority either voted for it or didn't care enough to vote against it.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 week ago (2 children)

I don't want to be an election denyer but I find it outlandish that:

1: he won every single swing state

2: people voted dem down ballot but not for Harris

3: the voting machines were connected to starlink

4: many reports from people saying their votes were not counted

I don't think he won fairly. I believe majority of Americans do not support him but there's been big money backing him for years. Unfortunately we didn't have any rules in place for such a scenario. (Other than 2A but good luck against tanks and fighter jets)

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 week ago

That is all suspicious

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 week ago

@FilthyHookerSpit @Freshparsnip the thing I find weird is that not a single county flipped red to blue, but 88 flipped blue to red. Just demographic changes would usually mean one almost-blue changes hands. All one way hasn't happened since Hoover, so you'd think, from that, that Trump had a MASSIVE margin.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 2 weeks ago

Look at the DJ and S&P in YTD rather than just 5 days. It's worse than that graph is showing.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 weeks ago

Big victory for humanity and the planet.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 2 weeks ago

The USD being replaced will be wild, but it will happen. It's not reliable anymore.

[–] [email protected] 27 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

I actually am so sad about this. I've always been a patriotic American. To see my country (which has had its fair share of shit fuck) being reduced to nothing but a pile of cult worshipping narcissists brings me so much pain. I love and respect other nations, so trump sowing salt into the fields is like a stab to my heart.

My neighbors have officially gone insane. My country and the immediate world around me has gone insane.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

I feel the same. I imagine this was the feeling of watching Hitler come to power and seeing the entire world burn. I fear this is the beginning of that again. All the signs are there.

I dont know what else to say... Many good people will suffer.

[–] [email protected] -5 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I really hate when people jump to Hitler. Trump isn’t Hitler and the US isn’t close to Nazi germany… yet. But we are certainly following close to Franco or Mussolini

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Yeah didnt mean to anger you. But Trump is a bit crazy. He acts like a dictator.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 week ago

Those were dictators too.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

Honestly, I can't grasp just how screwed the US is... Republicans has pulled a Brexit on us, and worse.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 weeks ago

As Trump intends (as Russia intends).

[–] [email protected] 13 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

I always wanted American Hegemony to end. No one country should have that much influence. We were abusing our status as a leader for a long time, anyways. I just didn’t want it to end like this.

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