Know your enemy : memes

[–] [email protected] 9 points 7 months ago

I disagree for one reason.

My uncle was being homophobic and transphobic so I started to misgender him so he could see what its like.

Unsure if he's less bigoted now but he definitely got quite upset and it made the point to everyone else around at least.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 7 months ago (2 children)

Frank Miller Batman is still the best Batman.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 7 months ago

That REALLY depends.

Year One? Absolutely.

The Dark Knight Returns? Agree to disagree.

All-Star Batman and Robin? Christ no, it might be the worst.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 7 months ago

Too bad Frank Miller is a terrible person. But yes, TDKR is one of my favorites.

[+] [email protected] -11 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

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[–] [email protected] 7 points 7 months ago (1 children)

lol third picture is best

[–] [email protected] 7 points 7 months ago (1 children)

I am bothered by this Is there actually more pictures and I'm just a lil dumb

Or are you trolling me

Making me doubt my whole existence lmao

[–] [email protected] 7 points 7 months ago

Trolling. It's just a single picture.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 7 months ago (2 children)

The purpose of language is to reveal and convey meaning and thought. Euphemisms and euphemistic language are designed to control how you talk about certain subjects and consequently, how you think about them. People who try to control how you think NEVER have anyone's "best interests" in mind but their own.

Don't let other people tell you how to manage your own head.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 7 months ago

that sounds super profound but imo makes no sense, what's your point? What is the euphemism in the OP?

[–] [email protected] 4 points 7 months ago

I love this comment because it can be applied to multiple perspectives on this cultural debate.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 7 months ago (2 children)

Which issue is this from

[–] [email protected] 6 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Looks like Batman: The Dark Knight Returns.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 7 months ago

Aka the super fascist batman story

[–] [email protected] 6 points 7 months ago

That guy, who said we could use slurs for good. What happened to him? Last time I checked he was defending a white supremacist terrorist.

[+] [email protected] -9 points 7 months ago (2 children)

But if you say this about body shaming they'll just tell you their taret deserves it.

[+] [email protected] 3 points 7 months ago (2 children)

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[–] [email protected] 1 points 7 months ago (1 children)

No. I don’t think it’s awkward. At all.

The only person whose weight and body is your business is your own. My body isn’t your business. Your neighbor’s body isn’t your business. Your coworkers body isn’t your business. It’s not your business and your opinion doesn’t matter about any body but your own.

So how about this… let’s just not talk about each other’s bodies and let people be who and what they are. Fat people have enough shit to deal with already and they don’t need shit from you too, whether it’s ’support in losing weight’ or criticism.

[–] [email protected] -2 points 7 months ago (1 children)

So if I decide to attach a bunch of lead weights to my body and enter the same elevator as you, it's only my business, is it?

[–] [email protected] 0 points 7 months ago

what if the world was made of pudding

[–] [email protected] 8 points 7 months ago

There's nothing awkward about it at all, nobody deserves to be bodyshamed, period. Yes, being overweight is unhealthy. The vast, vast majority of overweight people know this. The only thing you accomplish by expressing your concerns and "acknowledging it's bad" unprompted is making the person feel worse, they're not gonna go "Wow, li10 is concerned about my weight, this was the moment I was waiting for to start being healthier". This isn't a hallmark movie, it rarely works like that.

If an overweight person expresses a desire to lose weight and be healthier, absolutely encourage and support that... but support looks like things like offering to be a gym buddy,sharing healthy recipes, words of encouragement as they progress, maybe even joining them on their diet, etc... and even then only if they've expressed a desire for that support. Telling them unprompted "I'm concerned about your health due to your weight" is NOT support, it's nothing but an empty platitude.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 7 months ago (2 children)

Bit of a strawman, no?

[–] [email protected] 6 points 7 months ago

Less of a strawman and more of a non-sequitor whataboutism.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (1 children)

Ive seen this community making fun of people for their weight or claiming people have small dicks when they do something they dont like so not really. Point proven though, yall don't care about body shaming.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 7 months ago (1 children)

So you're generalizing, then pretending to take the moral high ground on a non-existant issue just to avoid agreeing that people shouldn't be misgendered, imagining a non-existant level of hypocrisy?

[–] [email protected] 0 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (1 children)

Where did I avoid agreeing with the post? If you're curious about something ask me instead of assuming based on nothing. Bodyshaming is wrong and it happens here, that's not non-existent. Thats the message, do you take offense to that because you seem real preseed to make accusations.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 7 months ago (1 children)

The meme is calling out people using misgendering as a punishment. You're then attacking people who point this out as guilty of hypocrisy by saying "they" are fine with bodyshaming.

Bodyshaming is wrong, yes, nobody brought that up except yourself and only as a way to attack some vague hypocrisy in an imagined enemy.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (1 children)

Again, I see bodyshaming happening here, thats not an imagined enemy unless you dont know what words mean. You're talking over me now and ignoreing what im saying, this being the third time I'm telling you it happens here so you can pretend im talking about no one. Stop with the intelectual dishonesty.

What I am doing is poiting out a similar punishment people do for bodyshaming, and for the fourth time, it happens on this very website. That makes it relevant no matter how mad you are about that. You wont even ask me about the original post after I told you to instead of assuming because then you won't be able to pretend im attacking anyone other that the hypocrites, who again exist on this site. Did I say it enough this time?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Show me. Show me where there is an overlap of people who think bodyshaming is okay and misgendering is not. Humans aren't a monolith.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (2 children)

https://lemm.ee/comment/8694192

Gee look at that, when it's someone detestable, no one even cares. I was looking for one I saw about a week ago where someone called them out for bodyshaming and got downvoted for it. Ill keep going, im sure theres more. On this site Bodyshaming gets you upvoted though. Gee if only someone tried to bring this up, im sure they'd be met with open dialogue and not baseless accusations and being talked over. Stay posted, I'll get more.

https://lemmy.world/comment/6998701

Glad this comment finally got out if the negatives but they're drowned out in number and number of votes by people insisting that insulting his disability is okay. Lemmy has a real problem with this, and assuming all of them also support misgegendering is short sighted, untrue, and unhelpful. Im sure user 'progressiveist' is a big time misgenderer though because that makes sense.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 7 months ago

Is this person also saying that misgendering is bad? Do you think Lemmy is a monolith?

[–] [email protected] 3 points 7 months ago

You do realize that's an entirely different post yeah? You also realize lemm.ee isn't lemmy right? I am not trying to attack you, nor did I look at where the person your arguing came from, but for them it could very well be non-existant. The community you join, determines what you see. This is the luxury of a federation.

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