Oh, bother.
this post was submitted on 02 Apr 2025
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Uh oh. The reason gmail is profitable is because they see all your emails and sell your profile to others.
I dont want Mozilla doing that.
In the article it says they will have no ads and no data mining. The user will pay for the service.
Sounds like good news. I just hope they won't put some bullshit in the TOS saying they can scan your emails to train their AI.
Would be great if they create a real competition to proton mail
I really hope this doesn't impact the client too significantly. A substantial part of why I use Thunderbird is to keep out of these "ecosystems".
I think the purpose is to find a source of revenue so that they don't have to ruin their product. There's a lot of potential good here, in addition to the unfortunately undeniable potential bad.
I'm sure Mozilla will run a heathy and sustainable project straight into the ground.
That's what they do
Mozilla doesn't run Thunderbird
Well... The Mozilla Corporation doesn't. But both the Corporation and MZLA (which makes Thunderbird) are owned by the Mozilla Foundation.
But yeah, the different org does probably matter.
Not yet
Thunderbird is funded by donations and operates under the MZLA banner.
These articles today are doing a disservice to the Thunderbird team who work independently of Mozilla afaik.
As written in the article
Moz doesn't contribute financially to Thunderbird's development, according to Sipes, and whatever revenue the Thunderbird team generates will go straight into furthering its work.
Thunderbird really needs to be a totally separate thing
Mozilla is the new Google at this point. Google set the bar in hell so everyone else can get away with a lot.
Few know how things are structured. Or more importantly, how it could be restructured later.
These articles purport to be written by journalists though. Fact checking is meant to be a staple of the job description.
Just for argument’s sake, it’s easier to change the behavior of one mismanaged foundation than the broken news cycles
Thunderbird is not a Mozilla project. It is independent of Mozilla including it's financing and has been for several years now.
My understanding is MZLA was set up so Thunderbird could accept donations and manage it's own finances independently of Mozilla. There have been no allegations anywhere that MZLA has been mismanaged.
few people know that or will understand it; it’s been tarnished by the foundation.
If I were managing thunderbird, I would do a rebrand because I am not the first or last person to make that mistake ; there are tens of millions of me
The journalists who published these articles had an opportunity to educate their readers by not spreading misinformation and by not misrepresenting Thunderbird's relationship to Mozilla.
The issue here isn't the disdain anyone has for Mozilla (although that might be yours). The issue is the misrepresentation of Thunderbird as a Mozilla project by news media.
I am influenced by both and control none, bobbing along the waves of misinformation and mismanagement like a cork in the ocean .
1998 called...
Called what?
and praised us for finally moving away from gmail, with a superior email client.
when they said they would look for a way to monetize firefox i was worried, but this is actually great if they make a good service.
I agree. I would love to see a competitor to gmail/office365 that respects privacy
Mozilla: "what is this you speak of"
If there's one thing I'm sure of, the font and buttons will be 10 sizes too big and not configurable.
They are really not selling me with their recent antics
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