Does this mean third party apps will be able to interact with whatsapp?
this post was submitted on 07 Mar 2024
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only when the service specifically requests it and agrees to Whatsapp's terms.
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Would this mean I could finally ditch what's app and use only Signal?
No, Signal announced they won’t implement interoperable messaging.
kind of dumb they could get huge market share
Yeah, this worked so well for XMPP when everybody federated with Gmail chat.
Well, it worked out for Google when it federated with Jabber, who first open sourced XMPP.
It's not. There is no privacy if you send your message to Whatsapp servers.
Would it not be E2EE? Isn't that one of the reasons for using the Signal protocol?
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Not if signal doesn’t want to support WhatsApp, and I don’t think they’re going to unfortunately :(
Is there a reason this requirement doesn't apply to iMessage as well?
I've read somewhere that iMessage wasn't considered "big enough" to be considerate a monopoly. Which is bullshit if you ask me.
Apple would still feel pressure to add interoperability if all other big players do. iMessage would have a competitive disadvantage if it's the only one where users are unable to message the rest of the world.
Have you met Apple and their walled garden of “IDGAF”?
Yes. Still, it would be harder to not give a f if others walled gardens open up, and iMessage get disadvantaged by that wall.
It's as if iPhones were only able to make calls to other iPhones. Whereas all other devices where able to make calls to any device from any other vendor.
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Kinda true in Europe though. Don't know anyone who uses iMessage, it's pretty much irrelevant. I know the situation in the US is quite different, but ultimately they don't regulate for the US market.
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I don't think it's ever happened to me that anyone told me that it was inconvenient for them that I didn't have iMessage, compared to pretty much weekly exclamations of "But why can't you just use WhatsApp like everyone else!?"
To be fair here in Europe I know no one who uses iMessage.
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Please Signal, use this opportunity. I really want to be on Signal AAAAH
Why not convince people to use Signal as well? Even my family has a group chat on Signal. Of course, it's a slow move with most people sticking to non-open chats. But it's worth the effort I would say.
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They have already announced that they will not be interoperable with insecure messaging apps unfortunately.
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