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To comply with DMA, WhatsApp and Messenger will become interoperable via Signal protocol (techcrunch.com)

submitted 8 months ago by [email protected] to c/[email protected]

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[–] [email protected] 20 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (6 children)

I dislike when they say in news clips that Signal represents the “current gold standard” for E2EE chats, it doesn't, Signal is a helluva lot better than the commercial stuff that mines user data but there's stuff like SimpleX Chat that doesn't leak even metadata because it doesn't have it.

Still, this is a good thing, these megacorps have their iron grip on people because they have raised walls around their services making it painful for people to move to a different service, tearing down those walls can only help us all.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 8 months ago

Signal encryption can be taken out of the app and applied elsewhere, because it has been already done. SimpleX is nice but this is single app single implementation thing.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

It appears SimpleX is not even available for me (Android 8).

[–] [email protected] 6 points 8 months ago

The standard is about the protocol, not every bit of the implementation. 3DH / X3DH and double ratchet, etc, are among the best for E2EE.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 8 months ago (2 children)

Thanks for the tip about SimpleX, that looks interesting! I could never use Signal due to the way they operate and force you to rely on their and Google's servers, actively blocking forks from their network. So much for FOSS...

[–] [email protected] 5 points 8 months ago

They do provide an apk outside of the Play Store, that uses a Web Socket for push notifications. Not he best way of going about it, but hey, it exists.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 8 months ago

SimpleX is very neat. But it cannot do multiple devices unless you count shutting down, exporting database to new device replacing existing database as a sensible workflow. Using the database on two devices at once will break encryption and cause all sorts of weird problems.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 8 months ago

@jherazob @Mysteriarch Though great with some worthy competition for Signal!

[–] [email protected] 14 points 8 months ago

A standard is also about broad adoption though, so I don't think you can call SimpleX a standard yet.

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