The alternatives to Intel/AMD/Nvidia, Visa/Mastercard/American Express/Discover and IOS/Android need to be more developed.
Apple was the first to go on my list. Google secondish because I switched from iphone to graphene pixel
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I've had my Google Voice number since 2005 when it was originally called GrandCentral.
I don't think there is any place I could port my number that would let me keep service for free.
And I have never found a reasonably price alternative that doesn't seem sketchy or gimmicky or built just for business, that also seems like it will be around in another 10 years.
Any ideas?
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Back to flip phones? Or what alternative are you guys looking at?
Google and Apple are a bunch of bootlickers imo to the Trump administration.
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Eh, there are a lot of people here who don't use most or any of those services as it is. And there are far more "American Tech" products you all use out there that you're probably unaware of, and many things you think ARE American tech are actually Chinese or other country's tech, so I don't know why not just frame it as not giving money to tech companies broadly and just shutting off social media like you should anyway.
This framing leaves you open to just move your money from one branch of the same oligarchy to another while thinking you're making a difference.
Hell, I'm in the US and this sounds like a great idea. Tired of being tracked and monetized for every single thing I do.
You waited this long to get rid of Apple?
I have had a used pixel running Ubuntu Touch for months that I’m using more and more of lately.
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I like how it took the threat of annexation to mildly inconvenience yourselves.
Inertia can hard to overcome!
For myself the invasion threat challenged me to devote more of my free time to look into alternatives to things that I was just coasting on.
Like using Lemmy, for example. You’ve been using this for years but I started just this month. I looked into it during one round of the failed boycotts of Reddit but there was no discussion ongoing in the topics I was interested in, and it sailed out my memory and off my priority list. Was it always the right call? Yes. But now the reasons are strong enough for me to overcome the inertia.
Isn’t the important thing is that it’s happening now , and not that folks like me took longer?
So yeah; I want to ditch Apple products. Right now there are no non-American products that can replace my phone but also provide all the functionality I use such as NFC payments. But I’m gonna do it anyhow when it comes time to replace my phone because it’s important to me. And if enough people do this that will trigger development of solutions for these problems, but even if they don’t I still am doing it anyhow.
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U.S. citizen here. Don’t even blame you. Just to be clear, we hate this too. Maybe Canada can save us.
You guys should be out on the streets protesting en masse. Being complacent is the same as showing you're okay with all of these.
Meanwhile actual americans are being pulled into unmarked vans for looking latino.
Something like 60-70% of Americans live paycheck to paycheck. Most people can't afford to protest. And healthcare insurance and other things are tied to our jobs.
You guys earn way more than us, but we still find ways to protest more often.
It really is about finding ways, its never gonna be a convenient thing you do on a sunny afternoon...
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can't afford to protest.
I sincerely hope ruminating about the economics of your past lives are enough to keep you mentally occupied and busy while you're in a detention facility.
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Believe me, we are. They just don’t show it on the news. Plus boycotting mainstream vendors like Walmart, target, etc.
Also going to rallies and down ballot candidates. Some important local elections coming up and watch Florida for their special election.
It sucks. But, we have to fight our way out of it.
I see. I'm glad to hear it.
Just remember you're not alone. Canada, Australia, and Europe are actively boycotting the US economy as much as possible.
We're with you. ✊
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The thing which really stops me from Google Maps alternatives is the lack of reviews. Very useful.
Plus, goddamn I wish they would modernize their UIs.
Yup. It's tough. People don't understand it this way but Google Maps is actually a social network, in addition to the navigation features. It's an absolutely huge plus and I wish someone else would integrate the social features. It has given them the largest and most helpful worldwide POI database that exists, afaik.
OSMAnd is pretty good.
Yeah, that's a big one. Have you considered Here Wego? Its european and integrates TripAdvisor reviews (yes, US I know. Still better than feeding Google Imo). It doesn't have everything but for restaurants and POIs it usually has the info you need if you live in a bigger city.
That’s what I use, works pretty good so far.
Ah gotcha. Strabic me completely misunderstood your comment lol.
Nah I'm not OP so you got it right, just meant to second your comment that Here WeGo is pretty darn good at least in Europe.
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