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American Militia Members. Where the hell are you? THIS is what you exist for and you are doing NOTHING!

Edit: I've only heard "defense against tyranny" as justification for these militias by these militia

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[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 week ago (11 children)

If you expect your enemies to die fighting for your beliefs while you sip a latte and post memes then you're unfathomably fucking stupid. Right wingers care about stopping communism. Guess whose job it is to stop fascism?

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[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 week ago

Most of the "militias" support this tyranny. They're celebrating

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 week ago

I really wonder how it would work in a country that big in empty spaces and populations with so much authoritarian actors.

Each county has a well armed police force. Nearly each state has an armed force millitia. The country has a national guard. It also has several armed agencies. It has the three biggest armies on earth if you separate each corp and only count active soldiers. It has so much millitary equipment the overflow gets sold to polices.

Those armed millitia are all in different counties, are smaller than the local police forces, with less weapon and next to no organizational know how... They would never be able to have any other impact than get outgunned in a remote place by cops or the national guard...

Unless they all start to cause chaos at the same time, which would maybe lead to a semi destabilization of some part of the USA, I don't see these people with guns achieve anything.

Also most people who wants guns are scared/anxious persons and will talk loud about using them but won't act when it's time, because their real motivation is hiding a percived weaknesses with a weapon.

That's why in all the years of abuse by the insurance system in America, there was only one Luidgi.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 week ago

β€œNot all tyranny is bad”

-maga dumbshits

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 week ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 week ago

Have been for a while. Probably for ever. True of probably any country.

[–] [email protected] 35 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (2 children)

Successful Leftist organizers like the Black Panther Party are stamped out by the State, leaving only far-right millitias in any real number.

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[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

We were assured that the guns were there for protection and the many thousand child-sized coffins were just the cost of freedom; A trade-off because tyrants were lurking right outside the door.

Now a tyrant has taken over with barely any resistance and it seems that all those children died for nothing.

Shameful.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 week ago

Maybe we just didn't let enough children die... πŸ€”

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 week ago

Oh, honey...

[–] [email protected] 21 points 1 week ago

94% of Militia members in the US are foaming at the mouth reactionaries if not open fascists, with many being active or former law enforcement or related to military or intelligence.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

If the anti fascists of the US actually started arming themselves en masse, I think it would be a net positive effect.

Either you have more armed anti fascists able to fight back, or the fascists panic and begin banning guns, causing the fools who follow them to actually think twice about their beliefs.

Nothing gets far right followers more riled up than someone threatening to take their firearms.

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[–] [email protected] 21 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Majority of militia folks are fascists

[–] [email protected] 44 points 1 week ago (1 children)

it's not government tyranny unless a democrat is president. duh,

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 week ago (2 children)

They also didn't do anything when the democrats were presidents.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 week ago

And they were at least fascist lite.
Now look at them crying bcs they lost their precious uniparty democracy once it started bullying them and not just the rest of the world for once.

[–] [email protected] 36 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

While it is true that the majority of what people conceive of as American "militias" are reactionary, leftist community defense groups do exist. They have no where near the organizing capacity to march on DC but they can be seen protecting their local communities often under the umbrella label Antifa. Given the material conditions of the US, most of the focus is on providing marginalized groups with the skills and resources to protect themselves.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 week ago

Thanks for the links

[–] [email protected] 16 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Some of those that work forces are the same that burn crosses. For the most part, it’s fascists who form these militias, and quite a few of them are cops and military from 9–5. These people are not against β€œtyranny,” they’re for their own fascist brand of tyranny.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

You mean the National Guard? They're just another branch of of the military now.

If you mean the white nationalist militias, they're pretty content with what going on. I think they're getting ready to bring lynching back.

If you are talking about leftwing militias, I got some bad news....

[–] [email protected] -3 points 1 week ago

I meant any of the groups that justify themselves as being a check against tyranny

[–] [email protected] 72 points 1 week ago (2 children)

The vast, vast majority of armed militias that are allowed to operate in the U.S. are far-right white supremacists. Mysteriously, they are allowed to operate without any issues, but any leftist militias that start to accumulate guns get a visit from the FBI or the ATF.

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[–] [email protected] 35 points 1 week ago

Nothing got gun control passed faster than the Black Panthers buying guns.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 week ago

Oh they only care about tyranny that affects them. It's not tyranny if it's hurting the people they want hurt.

[–] [email protected] 104 points 1 week ago (1 children)

They're all white supremacists, man. This isn't a tyranny to them, it's exactly what they want, they want anyone who isn't white 'self deporting' in the face of cruel mistreatment, and the military and the rest of the government is deleting any mention of any historical person that isn't a white cis het male. They have never been happier.

[–] [email protected] 35 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

This exactly.

They don't see imposing a state of fundamentalist Christian supremacy as tyranny, because their ideology is one of Christian Nationalism (which in the US is inherently white nationalism).

They see the erosion of their relevance as the tyranny they're supposed to stand up to despite it mostly being driven by cultural changes instead of government mandates. This means that the militias are meant to commit violence against civilians; they know the cops will side with them in a scrum. They're more afraid of a lesbian with blue hair than a rogue sherrif depriving them of rights.

[–] [email protected] 20 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I mean, if you look back to the framing of the constitution, the idea was that a bunch of citizen militias would be kept such that if the country needed defense, they would be able to respond. This was because the new United States lacked (and politically opposed) standing armies like the one which they just fought off the continent.

Since then, the United States acquired an Army, Navy, and Air Force alongside numerous National Guard units. The theoretical need for citizen militias vanished.

The real answer to your question is that we really don’t have citizens participating in β€œwell-regulated militias.” Not from the constitutional context, anyway.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 week ago

The need for citizen militias was specifically to support regular forces but also oppose them if necessary. The idea was that citizens should always be more powerful than the government. Some people think that modern weaponry means that people could never overpower the military, but we see it all the time.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Federalist_No._46

[–] [email protected] 38 points 1 week ago

Enforcing government tyranny.

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